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Offline Colyn

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #220 on: October 28, 2007, 01:46:51 am »
If I say Lifestyle I am actually referring to the guys on top floor :) not on the sales floor.
Never underestimate the power of denial.
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #221 on: October 29, 2007, 12:20:47 pm »
Is this true for Germany itself as well, why would a German company sell a chip which invalidates the warranty for a German motorcycle? ???


In Germany they only sell the chip under the counter. Next to the hardcore porn mags
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BTW: I am sure that something like the power controller does not only void your warranty in Germany but also your TÃ?V / roadworthiness (which might have much more severe consequences).

You obviously have inside info  ;D ;D ;D Thanks for clearing that up.

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Started with add ons (which came with papers) - the difficult time.
Later I moved on to more serious conversions like my old VF1100 and my 500cc CB250RS. - By that time I knew a few guys there and things became easy :D
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #222 on: October 29, 2007, 02:20:40 pm »
Hey Beemer man,why do you wanna talk or did talk to Denver Biggs if his a member of the dawgs.....do your homework ;) ;) ;)

Ja very doff, only found this out last week!! ;D
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Octane booster anyone?
« Reply #223 on: October 31, 2007, 10:35:25 am »
I have found that some brands of fuel seems to ping more than others here in Gauteng on my 2004 1200GS. Had the best results with Sasol 95, but it still pings badly under certain conditions (hot day, 140km/h in top gear, pillion or slight uphill). I try to vary the load as far as possible whenever I hear pinging (sounds like broken glass marbles in the engine/gearbox)

On numerous occasions the guys from BMW just told me to fill up with 95, as it is caused by bad quality SA petrol. What concerns me is that BMW reckons pinging will not damage your engine, and that I should just live with it - my knock sensor will take care of it!  ??? As far as I can figure out, my knock sensor does nothing to alleviate the problem.

Have any of you guys tried an octane booster to reduce the pinging?

I have experimented with an octane booster, adding +- 120ml to a full tank of Sasol 95, and found a noticeable reduction in pinging. Almost completely solved the problem... Bike also feels faster/happier.

BUT, I'm not sure what the long-term effects of an octane booster will be on engine life? Any ideas if this could screw your engine up more than the pinging?



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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #224 on: October 31, 2007, 03:38:02 pm »
You will probably find out that somewhere in the fine print it says that the warranttee is nul an void if any additives were used >:(
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #225 on: November 01, 2007, 02:37:43 pm »
I always thought a Knock sensor was the Madam who was in charge of the knock shop!! ;D
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #226 on: November 01, 2007, 09:02:41 pm »
And i thought its the old one who takes the money... ;D ;D
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #227 on: November 02, 2007, 08:22:21 am »
I always thought a Knock sensor was the Madam who was in charge of the knock shop!!

And i thought its the old one who takes the money...

And you both know this how is what I want to know???  >:D  >:D  ;D  ;D
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #228 on: November 02, 2007, 09:03:24 am »
I always thought a Knock sensor was the Madam who was in charge of the knock shop!!

And i thought its the old one who takes the money...

And you both know this how is what I want to know???  >:D  >:D  ;D  ;D

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #229 on: November 02, 2007, 11:11:50 am »

He fitted an aftermarket pipe and a Power Commander to a brand new GS 1200 and rode the crap out of it for almost 3,000 kms in 5 days.

How long has the Power Commander for the Gs1200 been available ?


Quite a while actually - official term is the Wunderlich Performance Controller, cost is around R 3800.00 fitted, I have had 5 1200GS's and am on my 9th Adventure, no bleats no kak and all pretty kwik. The one that Colyn was talking about - I just took on the SA Biking Tri-Track Tour (blerry awesome trip I might add)
and I literally did ride absolutely balles to the walles for 2 500 Kms including three different track days, as I said no mess - no fuss and 114 bhp and 103 nM on the dyno. Total work done, "Blue" airfilter, Wunderlich Headers & Hurric pipe and the Perfomance Controller, (same as Power Commander) Contact Auto Alpina 011 418 3300
Not too shabby hey Nige!
holy crap dude you are worse than PS
 14 bikes in what 3 years ?what do you do to them
and more importantly how does that adv go on a track?
Hehe no that's 14 bikes in two years dude, i am a brat I admit it - as for how an Adv go on the track feast your eyes and look for yourself........ ::)
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #230 on: November 02, 2007, 11:20:49 am »

He fitted an aftermarket pipe and a Power Commander to a brand new GS 1200 and rode the crap out of it for almost 3,000 kms in 5 days.

How long has the Power Commander for the Gs1200 been available ?


Quite a while actually - official term is the Wunderlich Performance Controller, cost is around R 3800.00 fitted, I have had 5 1200GS's and am on my 9th Adventure, no bleats no kak and all pretty kwik. The one that Colyn was talking about - I just took on the SA Biking Tri-Track Tour (blerry awesome trip I might add)
and I literally did ride absolutely balles to the walles for 2 500 Kms including three different track days, as I said no mess - no fuss and 114 bhp and 103 nM on the dyno. Total work done, "Blue" airfilter, Wunderlich Headers & Hurric pipe and the Perfomance Controller, (same as Power Commander) Contact Auto Alpina 011 418 3300
Not too shabby hey Nige!



Just remember guys you will loose any BMW warranty with this fitted, I spoke to Denver Biggs some time ago about this.!!!

Even if it is fitted at a BMW dealer, as in this case?

Good question

No sadly this is my nemisis (or translated more articulately the things that p&%$#S me off the most) 14 Gs's and GSA's and about 100 000Kms of HARD riding on road and off and not one bleat and I mean that literally, but I cannot get the "fish 'n chips" passed for warranty.
But hey look at my stats and ask me if there's a risk - I think not!
Photo refers..... ???
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #231 on: November 02, 2007, 02:01:37 pm »
Reminds me of that saying - as useful as teets on a bull...

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #232 on: November 02, 2007, 02:03:19 pm »
Da-Tazzman are you saying you have had this controller on all the bikes you have had?
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #233 on: November 02, 2007, 05:53:56 pm »
Reminds me of that saying - as useful as teets on a bull...

H

How about giving it a try on your KLR? ;)

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #234 on: November 02, 2007, 11:17:46 pm »
I have heard that the failures have basically stopped ... don't know more, only this. It has been quite a while since one was reported ... that is world wide.
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #235 on: November 03, 2007, 09:58:07 am »
So it must have been just my (bad) luck . . . having sort of the last one! :(

And for my sins BMW is now very quiet after the initial verbal assurances!

No commitment in writing and only a rather vague ... " we have no bike for u, we have other orders for all the ones on their way, sometime early next year ... "  The fact that I have paid my bike already does not seem to faze them any bit!

I'm pissed off!
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #236 on: November 03, 2007, 11:35:16 am »
So it must have been just my (bad) luck . . . having sort of the last one! :(

And for my sins BMW is now very quiet after the initial verbal assurances!

No commitment in writing and only a rather vague ... " we have no bike for u, we have other orders for all the ones on their way, sometime early next year ... "  The fact that I have paid my bike already does not seem to faze them any bit!

I'm pissed off!


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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #237 on: November 08, 2007, 08:37:59 pm »
Seems like we now entering the final stages of this saga even if at an unexpected angle!

I am told by my dealer here in Windhoek that there are no bikes available until at least April 2008!.  >:(
They even ventured that BMW might be keeping deliveries back in a quest to sort out the software/whatever issue! ???

Be that as it may, a local rider got transfered to the DRC and does not want to take his March '07 delivered Adv with him.  It has 2700km on the clock and is a beauty!  BMW is prepared to buy that bike and give it to me as a solution to my problem.  I think it is brilliant.  I have requested though for an extension on the warranty and am now awaiting their final decision.  Apparently this bike preceeds the ''problem'' units and I should not have any issues!

So, with a spot of luck I will be back in the saddle!  I can't wait!  ;)
 

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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #238 on: November 08, 2007, 08:39:48 pm »
Holding thumbs!
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Re: 1200 GSA engine failure!!
« Reply #239 on: November 09, 2007, 06:30:00 am »
Why can't BMW get you a new bike from one of the dealers, if they are saying they don't have stock anywhere they are talking shit because i got a call from BMW in George on tuesday asking if i was still interested in a GSA because they have one on the floor.
My doctor said that I should stop riding because of all my injuries...
At the moment I'm looking for a new doctor...