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AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« on: November 22, 2012, 11:21:16 am »
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I thought that maybe we could 1 central point where we could ask questions about the rules as put forward for the race.  There is a Rally Bike Build thread already with some overlap, but I would like to get answers on the tricky bits.
 

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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2012, 11:24:31 am »
The Supplied GPS:

Does it need a power supply?  If so: hella, JIS, DIN or just a connector block? How far from the unit must the supply be?
Will it have a cradle that required fitment before the time?
How much space is required for the unit? The bikes using handle bar mounted roudbooks will already be struggling for space.
 

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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2012, 11:29:36 am »
The FIM std water container.

There must be a fixed storage container for 3l of water other than the 2 liters carried for drinking purposes (emergency supply, so to speak).

Must the container carry the water or may we use camelbak bags inside the container?  This makes quite a difference in the execution.  May we use soft panniers (Giant Loop stuff) or must it be hard skinned and structurally fastened to the frame (a-la Dakar, where most now use a specialised bash plate with storage)?  I'm not really sure that I'm coming across in an understandable manner with this one  ???
 

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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2012, 02:06:08 pm »
Sorry Bill, no input, but i'd like these answers too...
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2012, 03:40:46 pm »
Awesome, thanks for posting.

Also does the GPS need a battery power supply, for those of us who have thumpers without batteries or must we do mods to get this done.
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2012, 05:27:42 pm »
Protective clothing: I can only find rules relating to helmets, boots, goggles and chest protectors. No mention is made of knee guards or braces or compression style full upper body armour or neck braces. Disregarding what I should wear or my wife or Jo Mamma wants me to wear, what will the official stance be?
 

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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2012, 05:29:28 pm »
I am open to correction but I think neck braces are compulsory.
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2012, 05:30:08 pm »
Additional rear dust light:

Does this need to slave the brake light as well or is a solid red rear facing light ok? Minimum size / wattage?
 

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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2012, 05:37:13 pm »
I am open to correction but I think neck braces are compulsory.

Possibly, but I could not find it under the FIM or MSA's rules.  If is compulsory, a standard will be spesified, same as for helmets.  I wear a hard brace on the commute, but a soft race neck roll off road. Will either be ok? Additionally, I read somewhere that there is no CE standard yet for neck braces.
 

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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2012, 05:38:30 pm »
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2012, 07:42:36 pm »
The Supplied GPS:

Does it need a power supply?  If so: hella, JIS, DIN or just a connector block? How far from the unit must the supply be?
Will it have a cradle that required fitment before the time?
How much space is required for the unit? The bikes using handle bar mounted roudbooks will already be struggling for space.

Camelman coming back to us re the gps mount, etc early next year - as posted in some other thread

no need to sweat it yet  :thumleft:
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2012, 07:46:45 pm »
The FIM std water container.

There must be a fixed storage container for 3l of water other than the 2 liters carried for drinking purposes (emergency supply, so to speak).

Must the container carry the water or may we use camelbak bags inside the container?  This makes quite a difference in the execution.  May we use soft panniers (Giant Loop stuff) or must it be hard skinned and structurally fastened to the frame (a-la Dakar, where most now use a specialised bash plate with storage)?  I'm not really sure that I'm coming across in an understandable manner with this one  ???

Anything will do as long as you got a 2l camelback and 3l spare - 5l in total

If you wanna put in all on your back then so be it - but it must be easily retrievable to anybody - including a rescuer

That's my understanding - hence I'll just strap 3l on my bike somewhere in empty coke bottles

I don't want a special bash plate - I need readily accesible water when I'm in the shit- that's all
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2012, 07:48:37 pm »
Additional rear dust light:

Does this need to slave the brake light as well or is a solid red rear facing light ok? Minimum size / wattage?

Methinks this is going too far - I hope I'm wrong
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2012, 07:53:59 pm »
I can't really see the 650+ riders adapting their bikes too much, barring navigation.......... for me, at least, this is a last hurrah before the race gets too professional .....................

450s, they have to anyway, so they might as well go all the way
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 07:16:30 am »
Another question might be the size allowances for the "trommel" that will be transported for you..


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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2012, 07:32:07 am »
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2012, 07:32:41 am »
I saw the dimesions somewhere.  I'll post the exact size later, but its essentially an army trommel, which is freakin small.  May only weigh 30kg all up.
 

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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2012, 07:42:21 am »
I saw the dimesions somewhere.  I'll post the exact size later, but its essentially an army trommel, which is freakin small.  May only weigh 30kg all up.

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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2012, 07:47:49 am »
Best bet to me is sharing a service crew - 1 crew to 4 bikes should keep the costs down
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Re: AMAGEZA 2013 RULES AND TECH SPECS Q&A
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2012, 07:55:04 am »
I saw the dimesions somewhere.  I'll post the exact size later, but its essentially an army trommel, which is freakin small.  May only weigh 30kg all up.
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