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The small bike thread
« on: October 20, 2007, 02:45:43 pm »
All members with 250 and smaller bikes show us your pictures, ask questions and give some info on your bikes. No fat pigs allowed  ;D

« Last Edit: October 20, 2007, 03:17:13 pm by digitaldan »
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2007, 03:02:46 pm »
My DR 250. Still have to take it on a trip.


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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2007, 04:08:39 pm »
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2007, 04:32:49 pm »
Don't push your luck, we nearly had the cut off at 400cc for the site >:D


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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2007, 05:33:27 pm »
Klein bike sindroom?

Post daai 250 van jou hier  ;D
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2007, 05:34:23 pm »
Don't push your luck, we nearly had the cut off at 400cc for the site >:D


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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2007, 08:24:48 am »
Don't stress, Sharks just lowered the bar to 100cc, we still need to see a ride report for the scooter.

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2007, 08:40:36 am »
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The bike is very easy to handle even on marbles, in river crossings and on soft sand. Suitable for short people +/-1.70m but still very capable offroad.

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Re: The small bike thread
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2007, 12:00:15 pm »
Yesterday I spent about 8hours astride a little DR200. We did approximately 160km's off-road with some very technical riding. Sand, and heavy sand at times, was a permanent feature.

We crested two mountains and (I think) rode around two fairly major ranges. We covered the route of the Cape Epic over the one mountain which had the little bike squirreling and squirming like a tickled tot.

I may not have grown to like sand riding, but I did find myself becoming fonder of riding in it, maybe because of the ability to get through without any fuss or fanfare.

I did find, though, that 2nd to 3rd could have been better. The bike would be working too hard in 3rd, drop to 2nd and it just made it through. If I had dropped to 1st, it's too high and the bike just digs in.

So, when it comes to small bikes, I'm sold. Thinking I'll take a look at the Yamaha TTR230 as I see it comes in a road licensed version too. Seeing as I'll be riding it off-road where I was yesterday, almost every weekend, seems like a decent bet.

I am tempted though to alos take a clsoe look at the DR400!  ::)

Anyone got any experience on these two scoots, especially the TTR.

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2007, 12:44:59 pm »
Yesterday I spent about 8hours astride a little DR200. We did approximately 160km's off-road with some very technical riding. Sand, and heavy sand at times, was a permanent feature.

We crested two mountains and (I think) rode around two fairly major ranges. We covered the route of the Cape Epic over the one mountain which had the little bike squirreling and squirming like a tickled tot.

I may not have grown to like sand riding, but I did find myself becoming fonder of riding in it, maybe because of the ability to get through without any fuss or fanfare.

I did find, though, that 2nd to 3rd could have been better. The bike would be working too hard in 3rd, drop to 2nd and it just made it through. If I had dropped to 1st, it's too high and the bike just digs in.

So, when it comes to small bikes, I'm sold. Thinking I'll take a look at the Yamaha TTR230 as I see it comes in a road licensed version too. Seeing as I'll be riding it off-road where I was yesterday, almost every weekend, seems like a decent bet.

I am tempted though to alos take a clsoe look at the DR400!  ::)

Anyone got any experience on these two scoots, especially the TTR.

Cheers

Lawrence

Hi Lawrence !

I just got a TTR250Raid - I think the 50cc extra makes a big difference (25% more power on the 200cc you rode).

The TTR came in two versions - The 'normal' one (check this thread - towards the bottom of the page where Marlene is flying, that's the 'normal TTR')
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=4.400

Check this one - its the one I got TTR250 Raid.
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=11189.0

Same specs, but a bigger tank and seat, slightly lower and a bigger front light.

They have a regular one in the same colour scheme as the one in my photo - R19900 (www.pocketrockets.co.za)

I'm picking mine up Tuesday coming. If you want I can come make a turn by you if you want to feel how it goes.

You can also PM Watty - he's just got the DR Djebel 250 XC - very cool as well.
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2007, 12:48:16 pm »
I'm still shocked at the price of a new official import at Yamaha.

R48k.

I can get a new DRZ400 for that.

So, DRZ400 or TTR250?
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2007, 01:15:56 pm »
Shark=DRZ400. full stop ;D

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2007, 01:26:25 pm »
Shark=DRZ400. full stop ;D

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I got a TTR250Raid because I didn't have the 30k + to spend on a DRZ400 ... (Cheapest I could get was R32k - then it still needed to get the road kit on and road registered for the 1st time...)

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2007, 01:48:11 pm »
Having both the 250 and 400 it's an easy choice. The 250 is about 15 - 20 kg lighter than the 400 BUT the DRZ is superior in all other aspects. More torque (think sand, highway, climbs etc.) and the suspension is far ahead. The 400 feels like a 250 on steroids. It has the same dimensions as the 250. But the DRZ costs twice as much as the DR does. If you would like a test ride on them let me know. I just need to redo the 250's rear shock, it's a bit pap right now. Oh yeah the 250 does 30 km/l and the 400 26km/l.
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2007, 03:02:25 pm »

Hi Lawrence !

I just got a TTR250Raid - I think the 50cc extra makes a big difference (25% more power on the 200cc you rode).

The TTR came in two versions - The 'normal' one (check this thread - towards the bottom of the page where Marlene is flying, that's the 'normal TTR')
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=4.400

Check this one - its the one I got TTR250 Raid.
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=11189.0

Same specs, but a bigger tank and seat, slightly lower and a bigger front light.

They have a regular one in the same colour scheme as the one in my photo - R19900 (www.pocketrockets.co.za)

I'm picking mine up Tuesday coming. If you want I can come make a turn by you if you want to feel how it goes.

You can also PM Watty - he's just got the DR Djebel 250 XC - very cool as well.

Hi Eisbein,

Thanks for the info.

WE had to recoved one of the Djebel's on yesterday's ride as someone (I won't say who) dropped it in a pond. OK, he did say it was because of the crappy Sirac tyre on front, but we know better.  :D

I'm actually considering something new, such as http://www.yamahact.co.za/bikeinfo/tt250r.htm
or the http://www.yamahact.co.za/bikeinfo/tt-r230.htm

Both of which will be suitable. I'd like to take you up on your offer to have a look at your TTR250, will pm you and take this offline.

What I'm really interested in is the bikes pulling power. I'll probably be the one carrying drinks and snacks for the tourists on the rideouts. So I'm thinking the 400, but if the 250 can do this and pull me out of the sand, I'm sold.

Thanks, looking forward to seeing you.

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2007, 04:20:09 pm »
The DR 200 and 250 Djebel seems to be quite popular. Some info as written by Lecap.

[They actually are two quite different bikes:

The Djebel 200 shares her 20 horsepower plant with the current model DR 200.
A stone ax simple 200cc OHC two valve air cooled construction.
The bike weights about as much as the panniers of a GSA    and handles like a mountain bike. It's low enough to allow even shorter people to put their feet firmly on the ground.
I did 100km/h on Occultdale Road (For Vaalies: quite rough and potholed dirt a few kms beyond Durbanville) and it felt very sure footed and safe, similar to the DR650. Suspensions and brakes are adequate and safe.
Up to that speed the bike pulls nicely. Above 100km/h is not the engines favourite domain means we will preferably be travelling on tertiary & farm roads avoiding national roads and freeways at all cost.   
IMHO ideal to start DS riding, ideal commuter, proof that small people can safely ride DS bikes and not only silly choppers.

The DR250 / DRZ 250 / Djebel 250XC all have the fancy SACS DOHC four valve 30hp single and are very similar to each other.
Although blessed with fifty percent more power the bike is also not the highway queen. At 120km/h on tarmac the engine does not sound too happy. The bike also feels much more nervous than the Djebel 200 due to the more offroad orientated setup. Brakes are good state of the art and the suspensions front and rear are fully adjustable (!).
The bike is also fairly light and handles very well but it's much higher than the 200.
IMHO a serious DS funbike with strong dirt orientation only lacking the brutality of a wheelie popping DRZ400 or wheelspinning XR650.
More second bike than beginners bike and not a commuter /i]
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2007, 04:30:40 pm »
For all TTR info visit this site http://www.ttr250.com
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2007, 06:00:58 pm »
You want small?
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2007, 06:13:21 pm »
You want small?

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