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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2007, 06:15:54 pm »
You want small?

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2007, 06:39:27 am »
I'm still shocked at the price of a new official import at Yamaha.

R48k.

Yep. That's just crazy. Luckily they're much cheaper 2nd hand. You also get a street kit for the CRF230. They sell for around R30k new.
 

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Re: The small bike thread
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2007, 06:56:36 am »
There are 9 NXR125's in the group of people that I know and ride with. Nice bikes with a range of 300km plus. They are not for HP junkies, but they can and do go everywhere. My wife gets up to 47km/l on her NXR. Guys get about 36km/l.

The TW200's are real gems. Reliable, easy to ride, go everywhere bikes. Funnily enough not that many around. Probably because they are 20% more expensive than the Honda CTX200 new. Kykdaar - give us some opinions from a owner's perspective.

The DT125 is a very nice bike. Light, durable, reliable. Faster than my CTX200. Unfortunately 2-stroke, so no go in the conservation areas.
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Re: The small bike thread
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2007, 01:23:56 pm »
DD, I see you set the threshold at 250cc. Would you not consider your DRZ400 a small bike? I suppose it depends on what you compare it with ;D
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2007, 01:30:02 pm »
I would love a little 200 for offroad fun, but i also have my eye on this...

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2007, 01:36:43 pm »
Specs? Price?
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2007, 01:43:44 pm »
Sachs MadAss 125
http://www.puzey.co.za/commuters/madass125_main.asp

According to an ad I saw in TopBike, +- R14k

Specs:

General information
Model:   Sachs MadAss 125
Year:   2007
Category:   Allround

Engine and transmission
Displacement:   124.00 ccm (7.57 cubic inches)
Engine type:   Single cylinder
Stroke:   4
Fuel system:   Carburettor
Valves per cylinder:   4
Fuel control:   OHC
Starter:   Electric & kick
Cooling system:   Air
Gearbox:   4-speed
Transmission type
final drive:   Chain

Physical measures
Dry weight:   100.0 kg (220.5 pounds)
Overall length:   1,815 mm (71.5 inches)
Overall width:   720 mm (28.3 inches)

Chassis and dimensions
Front tyre dimensions:   120/80-16
Rear tyre dimensions:   90/90-16
Front brakes:   Single disc
Front brakes diameter:   260 mm (10.2 inches)
Rear brakes:   Single disc
Rear brakes diameter:   215 mm (8.5 inches)

Speed and acceleration
Top speed:   90.0 km/h (55.9 mph)

Other specifications
Fuel capacity:   16.00 litres (4.23 gallons)
Color options:   Black, yellow

from here: http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/sachs_madass_125_2007.php

Looks like it has some potential for soooping up, lekker for weekend run-arounds, maybe even the commute if you can squeeze some more speed out of it :D
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2007, 01:47:09 pm »
Very "roady" it seems.
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2007, 01:49:43 pm »
yes i know, hardly appropriate here  ::) ::) ::)

i still like it though  ;D
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2007, 02:56:42 pm »
Its got better clearance than a BMW 1200 GS.
Whats this about "roady"

Wes, pity it will eat 2T smoke from my BWS!
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2007, 03:54:54 pm »
The DR 200 and 250 Djebel seems to be quite popular. Some info as written by Lecap.

[They actually are two quite different bikes:

The Djebel 200 shares her 20 horsepower plant with the current model DR 200.
A stone ax simple 200cc OHC two valve air cooled construction.
The bike weights about as much as the panniers of a GSA    and handles like a mountain bike. It's low enough to allow even shorter people to put their feet firmly on the ground.
I did 100km/h on Occultdale Road (For Vaalies: quite rough and potholed dirt a few kms beyond Durbanville) and it felt very sure footed and safe, similar to the DR650. Suspensions and brakes are adequate and safe.
Up to that speed the bike pulls nicely. Above 100km/h is not the engines favourite domain means we will preferably be travelling on tertiary & farm roads avoiding national roads and freeways at all cost.   
IMHO ideal to start DS riding, ideal commuter, proof that small people can safely ride DS bikes and not only silly choppers.

The DR250 / DRZ 250 / Djebel 250XC all have the fancy SACS DOHC four valve 30hp single and are very similar to each other.
Although blessed with fifty percent more power the bike is also not the highway queen. At 120km/h on tarmac the engine does not sound too happy. The bike also feels much more nervous than the Djebel 200 due to the more offroad orientated setup. Brakes are good state of the art and the suspensions front and rear are fully adjustable (!).
The bike is also fairly light and handles very well but it's much higher than the 200.
IMHO a serious DS funbike with strong dirt orientation only lacking the brutality of a wheelie popping DRZ400 or wheelspinning XR650.
More second bike than beginners bike and not a commuter /i]
Djebel 200
Overall Length: 2 150 mm (84.6 in)
Overall Width: 805 mm (31.7 in)
Overall Height: 1 150 mm (35.3 in)
Seat Height: 810 mm (31.9 in)
Wheelbase: 1 405 mm (55.3 in)
Ground Clearance: 260 mm (10.2 in)
Weight: 108 kg (238 lbs)
Engine type: Air-cooled 199 cc 1-cylinder, SOHC, 2 valves. 20 hp (15 kW)/ 8,500 rpm, 18 Nm (1.8 kg-m)/ 7,000 rpm.

Djebel 250 XC  (Second photo - also headlight and speedo shown)
Overall Length: 2 230 mm (87.8 in)
Overall Width: 890 mm (35.0 in)
Overall Height: 1 220 mm (48.0 in)
Seat Height: 885 mm (34.8 in)
Wheelbase: 1 450 mm (57.1 in)
Ground Clearance: 295 mm (11.6 in)
Dry Weight: 118 kg (260 lbs)
Engine type: Air-cooled 249 cc 1-cylinder, DOHC, 4 valves. 30 hp (22 kW)/ 8,500 rpm, 27 Nm (2,8 kg-m)/ 7,000 rpm.
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2007, 03:57:52 pm »
Wes, pity it will eat 2T smoke from my BWS!

o will it now. pity i am broke at the moment and can't afford to buy / upgrade it, and we could put your theory to the test  ;D
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2007, 03:59:40 pm »
yes i know, hardly appropriate here  ::) ::) ::)

i still like it though  ;D

I think the same applies to my Vespa (see my profile pic)!! They are awesome little scooters to ride though... really, they are...... no....... really!! Mountainboy will back me up!
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2007, 04:10:12 pm »
yes i know, hardly appropriate here  ::) ::) ::)

i still like it though  ;D

I think the same applies to my Vespa (see my profile pic)!! They are awesome little scooters to ride though... really, they are...... no....... really!! Mountainboy will back me up!

I will back you up about that too.

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2007, 04:14:17 pm »
me three, i hope to own one again someday soon!
 

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2007, 04:16:47 pm »
Glad to see some serious WD's confessing their love for Vespas!
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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2007, 07:03:25 pm »
Djebel (1937-1958) was a French Thoroughbred racehorse. Sired by Tourbillon, a stallion owned by Marcel Boussac, who had won the French Derby and the Prix Lupin, and went on to become a notable sire. Toubillon's dam-sire was the 1914 Derby winner Durbar.

Djebel's dam, Loika, was by Gay Crusader and out of Coeur a Coeur. Gay Crusader was the 1917 U.K. Triple Crown champion, and by the influential Bayardo. Coeur a Coeur was by Teddy, whose grandsire was the 1899 English Triple Crown champion Flying Fox. Therefore, Djebel traced back to Bay Ronald twice through his dam (both Bayardo and Teddy's dam-sire were by Bay Ronald). Loika produced seven winners, the greatest of which was Djebel.



Man wonder which Suzuki employee thought of that name  ???

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Re: The small bike thread
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2007, 02:20:51 am »
My 'reseach' as to the reason why Suzuki uses the name Djebel for their trail bikes is quite different.  Djebel is the Arabic word for mountain - the connection being the kind of terrain where such bike can venture.  Or the comparison with the image of grandeur and greatness a mountain represents.  Info from Suzuki's Japanese website.  Similar to the Yamaha Serow XT225 which is named after an agile mountain Asian deer.  I would rather believe that the race horse was also named with a comparison to a mountain.
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