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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #100 on: November 01, 2007, 11:21:14 am »
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Stiffer/progressive springs

Only lasting solution

i've tried thicker oil - forks went
Longer spacer - only pre-load the spring - less innitial sag - but stiff and limiting travel - more roadbike like.  Also didn't like med to heavy corrugations at speeds between 50 - 90 km/h

Prog springs - only lasting solution - serious

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #101 on: November 01, 2007, 11:39:49 am »
Het sommer vir myself een gemaak uit n ou toegeeteken padbord,   was eintlik baie maklik, so as jy n goeie pel het wat kan sweis en grind gee vir hom die materiaal en laat hy vir jou een maak.

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #102 on: November 01, 2007, 12:43:00 pm »
The Larry Roessler springs from Progressive Suspension.
They are progressive, makes a world of difference.  With forks like Kate Moss's legs, the best you can do.
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #103 on: November 01, 2007, 01:01:05 pm »
okay, I'll not screw around with PVC or Nylon spacers for now
I'm going to pour 5 or 10ml 10W oil down each fork tonight and see how things go.

if there is no major improvement I'll start budgeting for better springs.
how much can I expect to pay for progressive or stiffer springs? - you don't have to answer that, I should be able to find it out on my own
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #104 on: November 01, 2007, 01:07:11 pm »
Less than R1k
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #105 on: November 01, 2007, 01:11:49 pm »
okay, I'll not screw around with PVC or Nylon spacers for now
I'm going to pour 5 or 10ml 10W oil down each fork tonight and see how things go.

if there is no major improvement I'll start budgeting for better springs.
how much can I expect to pay for progressive or stiffer springs? - you don't have to answer that, I should be able to find it out on my own

LS here is a performance enhancing tip I learned long time ago...

Saved me lots of money over the years...

JUST ACCEPT IT...

If its broken fix it, if it aint leave it....

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #106 on: November 01, 2007, 01:14:15 pm »
Ok - just checked it out a little and it is now stupid question time...

When you guys talk about 'Progressive Springs' - is that actually a description of a type of spring, or the trade name for 'Progressive Suspension' ?

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #107 on: November 01, 2007, 01:18:48 pm »
a type of spring

the way I understand it is that it gets stiffer and stiffer the more pressure you place on it
while a regular spring remains at the same stiffness as you compress it
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2007, 01:20:31 pm »
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When you guys talk about 'Progressive Springs' - is that actually a description of a type of spring, or the trade name for 'Progressive Suspension'

Both

About $80 plus shipping and VAT
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #109 on: November 01, 2007, 01:26:06 pm »
Others like the Wilburs etc, are also progressive.

The first bit of travel is actually softer than stock. It soaks up all those little stutter bumps on the road.
The last bit over travel is actually harder than stock. Best of both worlds.
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #110 on: November 01, 2007, 01:29:09 pm »
02/02/12 - RIP Glen - the Arrow of Elliot and the little man with the big heart that truly was larger than life.

You have touched us and left us better for having known you - even if it was only briefly.

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2007, 01:42:44 pm »
About $80 plus shipping and VAT

I see the price has gone up since last you checked

$110 front
$450 rear

excluding shipping and VAT
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #112 on: November 01, 2007, 01:59:05 pm »
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #113 on: November 01, 2007, 02:33:51 pm »
One standard DR650- R48000-00

One standard bakkie bin full of DR650 bling R48000-00

Try not to cover the bike price in add ons, ask Kilroy ;D

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #114 on: November 01, 2007, 06:11:46 pm »
Eish, this blinging game can get expensive :o
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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #115 on: November 01, 2007, 07:18:57 pm »
I found out the part number for the OEM DR650SE skid plate.
It's 42500 - 32810
The price in SA is sixteenhundred and f*** Rands plus VAT. :o

I will get a quote in Europe.

I can get some made locally but I have to order a minimum of 10.

Who wants a skidplate for his / her DR650SE?
 

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #116 on: November 02, 2007, 10:29:15 am »
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Try not to cover the bike price in add ons, ask Kilroy

Why not??

Its either that or paying R160 up front with bling and then spend a lot of money each time after a small spill to replace the plastics, final drives, engins, etc   ;D

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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #117 on: November 02, 2007, 11:05:47 am »
You can add some oil. 10ml roughly equals 10mm higher oil level. I would not go higher than +20mm or +30mm though as it will put a lot of pressure onto the seals. Raising the oil level does not reduce the nose dive a lot. It mostly gives you some more reserves against bottoming out but it sometimes helps enough.

Beyond that it's progressive springs. I can get you Wilbers springs for a good price.
Single best improvement I have ever done to a bike. Available and recommended for most bikes on the market. Not some wishi washi add on but a serious improvement.

Spacers will only ruin your OEM springs. They don't make the spring harder but only readjust the ratio between positive and negative travel.
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Re: Suzuki DR650SE - the bottomless thread
« Reply #118 on: November 02, 2007, 11:10:48 am »
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Try not to cover the bike price in add ons, ask Kilroy

Why not??

Its either that or paying R160 up front with bling and then spend a lot of money each time after a small spill to replace the plastics, final drives, engins, etc   ;D

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I agree.

If you spend money in upgrades over time you also tend to upgrade stuff that you need.
Only way to know the 'shortcomings' is to live it / use it for a while...
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How to stiffen front suspension - Part 1
« Reply #119 on: November 06, 2007, 08:39:26 am »
1. Pop the bike on a milk crate (with a few planks underneath to help with height...but the wheels still scrape the floor)

2. Undo top fork seal with 22 spanner (careful not to scratch aluminium)

3. Remove cap and peer inside (can't see any oil but I'm sure it's down there somewhere)

4. 10weight Motul. R70.00 for 1litre (Why don't they sell it in smaller volumes?)

5. Nurse! prepare 200cc's, stat! (20mils down each fork, the oil feels thin and runs freely, not unlike Old Brown Sherry)



- Result?
Not much change. I'll either have to get used to this type of suspension or upgrade the springs