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Offline Dakar wanabe

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New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« on: January 12, 2013, 11:06:25 am »
I am looking into buying a new 2013 KTM 690 Enduro R, fitted with an adventure kit, longrange tanks, performace pipe etc.

My question is, if it would be worth spending so much on "aftermarket" parts? The bike is R95K alone, but no one in SA can give me accurate prices on the cost of the adventure kits!

I have contacted 3 KTM dealers and not one of them came back to me regarding prices and availability of the bikes alone, not even to mention the other parts! Is this the norm from KTM dealers? I have no such problems from my local Kawa agent.

This has me thinking to look at other brands aswell.

Keeping all this in mind (luckily I am in no hurry), since I was a kid, probably 10 years old, I wanted a BIG KTM. But when it came to length I was last in the row, so I have to scratch the BIG bikes from my list. But the 690 looks to be a nimble bike, to use as an everyday commuter and to do adventure rides, not even to mention to hack the trails over weekends!!

I also see that Alfie Cox have the 90 in an adventure kit, (if they would come back to me with prices it would help a lot), My local KTM agent in Pretoria will only be getting one bike in at the end of Jan.

What is the up and downs of these bikes, where can I get it kitted out, all info would be appriciated.

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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2013, 02:49:31 pm »
I am looking into buying a new 2013 KTM 690 Enduro R, fitted with an adventure kit, longrange tanks, performace pipe etc.

My question is, if it would be worth spending so much on "aftermarket" parts? The bike is R95K alone, but no one in SA can give me accurate prices on the cost of the adventure kits!

I have contacted 3 KTM dealers and not one of them came back to me regarding prices and availability of the bikes alone, not even to mention the other parts! Is this the norm from KTM dealers? I have no such problems from my local Kawa agent.

This has me thinking to look at other brands aswell.

Keeping all this in mind (luckily I am in no hurry), since I was a kid, probably 10 years old, I wanted a BIG KTM. But when it came to length I was last in the row, so I have to scratch the BIG bikes from my list. But the 690 looks to be a nimble bike, to use as an everyday commuter and to do adventure rides, not even to mention to hack the trails over weekends!!

I also see that Alfie Cox have the 90 in an adventure kit, (if they would come back to me with prices it would help a lot), My local KTM agent in Pretoria will only be getting one bike in at the end of Jan.

What is the up and downs of these bikes, where can I get it kitted out, all info would be appriciated.

Regards
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2013, 07:03:49 pm »
Agree KTM CT
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 07:31:01 pm »
Yup, put my deposit down for the Oryx RS. I'm nervous. Not for the ride, but the amount I'm spending on it  :eek7:
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 01:36:47 pm »
WORTH IT ! ORDER NEW UNDER PANTS SAME TIME, YOUR BONER WILL STRETCH YOUR OLD ONES
 

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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 02:13:25 pm »
WORTH IT ! ORDER NEW UNDER PANTS SAME TIME, YOUR BONER WILL STRETCH YOUR OLD ONES

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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 02:19:30 pm »
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2013, 02:23:29 pm »
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

safari tank is 14l and RR tanks are 9 - will then give you range between  450 / 400 km
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2013, 02:24:16 pm »
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

safari tank is 14l and RR tanks are 9 - will then give you range between  450 / 400 km

That's what I was looking for thanks. Don't like the big single tank
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2013, 03:01:00 pm »
Also starting to think about a 690.

I want long range tanks but not the full kit or Oryx. What can you guys recommend? What is the range then?

safari tank is 14l and RR tanks are 9 - will then give you range between  450 / 400 km

That's what I was looking for thanks. Don't like the big single tank




Rally Raid is about to launch their 2nd generation tanks - narrower than the old ones but ain't cheap  :o

http://www.ktmtwins.com/rally-raid-ktm-690-enduro-evo-2-auxiliary-9-5-liter-tank-kit

what I really like about teh RR stuff is that they come with KTM mounts and bits and it is all plug and play
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2013, 04:50:35 pm »
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 04:55:20 pm »
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Good question. Im hoping for an answer saying 'I've done 60 000km and still going strong'
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 05:01:12 pm »
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Good question. Im hoping for an answer saying 'I've done 60 000km and still going strong'

I've read about guys with BMW's, AT's, Gussi's, DR's, XR do km's in excess of 100000km's, but have read any such info on the 690. I've heard it is a high performance engine, which makes me worried. The boner in your old or new under pants might be short lived....???
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2013, 12:55:36 pm »
http://www.motorradonline.de/dauertests/dauertest-abschlussbilanz-ktm-690-sm/269735

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Seems like higher mileage should not be an issue
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2013, 01:01:15 pm »
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2013, 01:27:35 pm »
Snipit from the article

"Translated from german"

Survival is the keyword for the drive. After 50,000 kilometers with daily use of themost powerful production single in the world we were surprised with polished, handsome inner values: Except for a few scratches in the cylinder and light pitting on the gears of the fourth and sixth gear, the 690 shows virtually unaffected by the mileage. The cause for the final assessment traveled KTM technician explained the formation of the grooves due to foreign particles, which are likely to reach for maintenance through the air filter and the intake into the combustion chamber. The rebuilding of the engine would cost around 500 euros: (R6000) an engine gasket set, new piston rings, cylinder fine honing, grind valve seats and six hours to 50 euro (R3500) Then, they predict, would be the power single ready for the next 50,000 km. The chassis appears as robust. Wheel, steering head and swingarm bearings are fine, the coating of the frame and the attachments is presented perfectly, but somewhat lackluster. Only the clutch lever is badly corroded. This one has spared the KTM basically never. . She was tortured for long stretches of motorway, cruising and herded through the Alps, had to pass through two winters, means more islands circle and swim with editors and graphic designers from the daily stop-and-go traffic, what no one thought at the beginning, has occurred: Before years, such a joke, the abbreviation KTM stood for either "No one thousand meters" or "kick ten minutes." In the new 690 engine, it stands for "Hardly technical flaws."


Seems like good news, After 50 000ks spend around R10k and do another 50 000ks!!!! :ricky:
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2013, 04:15:55 pm »
I am looking into buying a new 2013 KTM 690 Enduro R, fitted with an adventure kit, longrange tanks, performace pipe etc.

My question is, if it would be worth spending so much on "aftermarket" parts? The bike is R95K alone, but no one in SA can give me accurate prices on the cost of the adventure kits!

I have contacted 3 KTM dealers and not one of them came back to me regarding prices and availability of the bikes alone, not even to mention the other parts! Is this the norm from KTM dealers? I have no such problems from my local Kawa agent.

This has me thinking to look at other brands aswell.

Keeping all this in mind (luckily I am in no hurry), since I was a kid, probably 10 years old, I wanted a BIG KTM. But when it came to length I was last in the row, so I have to scratch the BIG bikes from my list. But the 690 looks to be a nimble bike, to use as an everyday commuter and to do adventure rides, not even to mention to hack the trails over weekends!!

I also see that Alfie Cox have the 90 in an adventure kit, (if they would come back to me with prices it would help a lot), My local KTM agent in Pretoria will only be getting one bike in at the end of Jan.

What is the up and downs of these bikes, where can I get it kitted out, all info would be appriciated.

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If you are not too tall, you should consider a low mileage 690 enduro. Has 50mm less travel but at least you are in controll in the technical stuff.  Seat is still slightly higher than my WR450 when I am sitting on it so I expect the 690R to be relatively high. Close to 950/990/HP2
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2013, 01:19:13 pm »
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2013, 01:54:09 pm »
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.

You're kidding right? Please back up silly claims like that with some facts. I rode the shit out of my 640 and sold it with 45k km and it was running perfectly
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Re: New 690 Enduro R, worht it?
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2013, 12:33:18 am »
Does anyone know what the life expectancy of the 690 engine is in terms of KM's?

Ride it like a girl and you may get some sort of life expectancy, but otherwise budget for a rebuild at 25,000 - 30,000 kms.

You're kidding right? Please back up silly claims like that with some facts. I rode the shit out of my 640 and sold it with 45k km and it was running perfectly

I sold mine with 35000 km . No problems