UK Journo killed on watercooled GS Launch

[Karel Kat]

Why is there a case of culpable homicide?
Is it std procedure even if it was a single vehicle accident?

Yip, the SAPS has to investigate the death.

I'm not sure but should it not in this case be a "geregtelike doodsondersoek" (can't remember the English term) rather than a culpable homicide? Culpable homicide is possibly only applicable when another party is involved whereas a GO has to be done in all cases of unnatural death.

[Trailrider]

I have no 1st hand info. I heard a rumour that the bikes were in the accident together. That could explain the culpable homicide case.

Since I don't KNOW this for sure, I regard it to be just that. A rumour.

What is clear is that BMW do not want to make more info available. Some people on this thread spoke to people directly involved and they don't want to elaborate or even tell what they've heard. I do not know any specifics or the reason's for the secrecy, but the speculation will not stop. It's natural for people to wonder what happened, especially if it's being kept a secret.

It's a pity because at first it was said to be "out of respect for the family", but now it hurts more than it helps I'm afraid.

[Pullaway]

Between Zuma's secrecy bill and now BMWs as well - we'll soon know nothing! Won't be surprised if we see BMW's with showerheads soon! They now do have the plumming already!

[Gerrard]

Why is there a case of culpable homicide?
Is it std procedure even if it was a single vehicle accident?

Yip, the SAPS has to investigate the death.

I'm not sure but should it not in this case be a "geregtelike doodsondersoek" (can't remember the English term) rather than a culpable homicide? Culpable homicide is possibly only applicable when another party is involved whereas a GO has to be done in all cases of unnatural death.

"Inquest"

[Stofdonkie]

Why is there a case of culpable homicide?
Is it std procedure even if it was a single vehicle accident?

Yip, the SAPS has to investigate the death.

I'm not sure but should it not in this case be a "geregtelike doodsondersoek" (can't remember the English term) rather than a culpable homicide? Culpable homicide is possibly only applicable when another party is involved whereas a GO has to be done in all cases of unnatural death.

"Inquest"

Jup - as hulle 'culpable homicide' ondersoek, beteken dit dat daar 'n ander persoon betrokke was?

[Bensien]

What is clear is that BMW do not want to make more info available. Some people on this thread spoke to people directly involved and they don't want to elaborate or even tell what they've heard. I do not know any specifics or the reason's for the secrecy, but the speculation will not stop. It's natural for people to wonder what happened, especially if it's being kept a secret.

At this moment, there still isn’t a definite answer as to what happened. There isn’t any secrecy. The known facts have been stated.  Anything else would be rumours and speculation.

[Hooli]

The SAPS has to open a case if any person is killed on the road. That is standard procedure.

[Trailrider]

What is clear is that BMW do not want to make more info available. Some people on this thread spoke to people directly involved and they don't want to elaborate or even tell what they've heard. I do not know any specifics or the reason's for the secrecy, but the speculation will not stop. It's natural for people to wonder what happened, especially if it's being kept a secret.

At this moment, there still isn’t a definite answer as to what happened. There isn’t any secrecy. The known facts have been stated.  Anything else would be rumours and speculation.

No it hasn't. There were two bikes. People were there / helped the riders etc. Whether the bikes touched / rode into each other / fell independently because of a road hazard, will be known. That would not be speculation.

If the rider hit a buck, surely the statement would have said the rider hit a buck.

Now nothing is said. Not even the name of the second rider is known. Nothing. "To protect the family".

[Stofdonkie]

The SAPS has to open a case if any person is killed on the road. That is standard procedure.

Wasn't the question.

[Hoorn]

The SAPS has to open a case if any person is killed on the road. That is standard procedure.

Wasn't the question.

As daar 'n saak van strafbare manslag (culpable homicide) ondersoek word, vermoed die Polisie dat daar iemand anders betrokke was.

[Hoorn]

Danie dit werk so:

Iemand is dood. Dis moerse hartseer.

So of jy betoon meegevoel en respek of jy fokof.

Veral as jy dit een van jou afgesaagde anti-BMW tirades maak. Dis afgesaag, stupid, irriterend, oningelig en fokken afgesaag. O, ek het dit al gese. Seker omdat dit SO FOKKEN AFGESAAG is.

Die meeste van ons stel nie belang in die feit dat jy 'n issue met BMW het nie. Dis jou kortpiel probleem. Gaan kla elders en betoon bietjie respek. Dan sal ons ook.

Cheers.

Wat my betref, is die bostaande onsmaaklik met platvloerse taalgebruik en hoort dit nie op 'n "thread" waar onder meer eer betoon word aan iemand wat gesterf het nie.

[Bundu]

Danie dit werk so:

Iemand is dood. Dis moerse hartseer.

So of jy betoon meegevoel en respek of jy fokof.

Veral as jy dit een van jou afgesaagde anti-BMW tirades maak. Dis afgesaag, stupid, irriterend, oningelig en fokken afgesaag. O, ek het dit al gese. Seker omdat dit SO FOKKEN AFGESAAG is.

Die meeste van ons stel nie belang in die feit dat jy 'n issue met BMW het nie. Dis jou kortpiel probleem. Gaan kla elders en betoon bietjie respek. Dan sal ons ook.

Cheers.

Wat my betref, is die bostaande onsmaaklik met platvloerse taalgebruik en hoort dit nie op 'n "thread" waar onder meer eer betoon word aan iemand wat gesterf het nie.

ek kan amper nie wag om dan jou opinie te hoor oor die posts wat aanleiding gegee het tot die post waarna jy verwys..... 

[Wolzak]

Danie dit werk so:

Iemand is dood. Dis moerse hartseer.

So of jy betoon meegevoel en respek of jy fokof.

Veral as jy dit een van jou afgesaagde anti-BMW tirades maak. Dis afgesaag, stupid, irriterend, oningelig en fokken afgesaag. O, ek het dit al gese. Seker omdat dit SO FOKKEN AFGESAAG is.

Die meeste van ons stel nie belang in die feit dat jy 'n issue met BMW het nie. Dis jou kortpiel probleem. Gaan kla elders en betoon bietjie respek. Dan sal ons ook.

Cheers.

Wat my betref, is die bostaande onsmaaklik met platvloerse taalgebruik en hoort dit nie op 'n "thread" waar onder meer eer betoon word aan iemand wat gesterf het nie.

ek kan amper nie wag om dan jou opinie te hoor oor die posts wat aanleiding gegee het tot die post waarna jy verwys..... 

Ja-nee wragtig

[Mooch]

RIP.
Stop bickering boys....

[BV]

RIP.
Stop bickering boys....

X2

[Pullaway]

Well all we can say is:No Just one Jounrnalist was killed during this launch! So why do BMW keep us in the dark? Slangolie? Slang in die gras? Elk geval so begin die waterverkoelde BMW vir my lyk!

[ahlbebuck]

Well all we can say is:No Just one Jounrnalist was killed during this launch! So why do BMW keep us in the dark? Slangolie? Slang in die gras? Elk geval so begin die waterverkoelde BMW vir my lyk!

More like water cooled rider from that work of art.... 

[Vis Arend]

Well all we can say is:No Just one Jounrnalist was killed during this launch! So why do BMW keep us in the dark? Slangolie? Slang in die gras? Elk geval so begin die waterverkoelde BMW vir my lyk!

Ek dink nie BMW sal werklik iets se voordat die ondersoek deur die polisie afgehandel is nie, dit sal in elk geval onverantwoordelik wees.  En tien teen een is dit nie eens BMW of die fiets se skuld nie, miskien net 'n menslike fout, sienende dat daar twee fietse betrokke was.  Dis dan seker ook hoekom daar 'n strafbare manslag saak geopen is.   Die beste sal wees om te wag, en dit kan 'n lang wag wees, vir die amptelike uitslag.  Ek glo nie hier word iets weggesteek nie. 

[Jacko]

Ek dink nie BMW sal werklik iets se voordat die ondersoek deur die polisie afgehandel is nie, dit sal in elk geval onverantwoordelik wees.  En tien teen een is dit nie eens BMW of die fiets se skuld nie, miskien net 'n menslike fout, sienende dat daar twee fietse betrokke was.  Dis dan seker ook hoekom daar 'n strafbare manslag saak geopen is.   Die beste sal wees om te wag, en dit kan 'n lang wag wees, vir die amptelike uitslag.  Ek glo nie hier word iets weggesteek nie.  

Presies.  

[Bundu]

Well all we can say is:No Just one Jounrnalist was killed during this launch! So why do BMW keep us in the dark? Slangolie? Slang in die gras? Elk geval so begin die waterverkoelde BMW vir my lyk!

Ek dink nie BMW sal werklik iets se voordat die ondersoek deur die polisie afgehandel is nie, dit sal in elk geval onverantwoordelik wees.  En tien teen een is dit nie eens BMW of die fiets se skuld nie, miskien net 'n menslike fout, sienende dat daar twee fietse betrokke was.  Dis dan seker ook hoekom daar 'n strafbare manslag saak geopen is.   Die beste sal wees om te wag, en dit kan 'n lang wag wees, vir die amptelike uitslag.  Ek glo nie hier word iets weggesteek nie. 

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