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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2013, 11:14:48 am »
Depends on my conviction on the day, pay some, dodge paying others...

But a good rule of thumb is paying it on the way back, and in the unfortunate event that one uses a different route back, what a shame?!
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2013, 11:17:49 am »



I have never and will never pay for tolls untill the toll companies take a serious look at their fees.
I find it silly paying the same tolls as a vehicle or vehicle with trailer for that matter
My bike weighs less than 350Kg's filled with fuel and with me on it
The reason for tolls is for the tollcompany to maintain the roads
Main causes of roads needing repairs and maintenance is weight and overloading

I just pull up behind a vehicle - preferrably a taxi and tailgate through behind him ignoring the toll booth operator's frantic gestures and screams
Then i just smile as the bells go off and ride off
Who is going to fine you? - the toll road police?
asseblief man......get real - there is no such thing as a traffic offence connected with toll roads
They are private companies and have Nada to do with any or all police or Metro cops

Untill they conform and give us better prices.................F@ck them! :thumleft:

I'm afraid I'm with OS on this one!  The only time I am forced to pay is if there is no other traffic to follow through the boom!  I have been doing this for the last 10 years and have never had a fine, or got stopped!  Even here at Malelane, where the police sits right in front of the gate to search cars for illegal goods, the could not care less about the sirens going off when I skip through.  And lately I have noticed that the alarm doesn't even go off?  And I do have a number plate, it's just sometimes very dirty!

There is not a chance in hell I will pay the same when I ride my bike, as I do with my bakkie with two bikes on the back and a trailer with a bunch more on! 

'Cmon guys, those earlier comments about using the road and paying for it are just ridiculous!  Where does a bike damage the road as much as any of the other vehicles?

And like some of the comments, the money doesn't go to the Gov, it's private tolling companies.  And years ago, when my bike got damaged when I skidded on diesel and oil in the 'concrete lane', their response was that it must have been my bike leaking.  They did not see the sense in keeping the lanes clean. 

A lot of the overseas toll gates don't charge bikes (as mentioned in Peru earlier), they have separate narrow lanes.  It makes sense, as it is a mission to get money, wallet, card out.  And besides, people should be encouraged to ride more bikes, less traffic hassles, less wear & tear on roads, less fuel...

I try not to use toll roads, but to Marloth Park we have not found a way to get around it, unless maybe going through the township, which is a bad idea, just calling for flat tyres if we ride through their rubbish dumps.  Even to Jo'burg I have recently started going the alternative route again, just so I can skip the Middelburg Toll Plaza.  Besides, the N4 is horribly boring.

So F#)k them, they are not seeing any of my hard earned cash if I can help it!  >:D

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2013, 07:10:26 pm »
whats a 'toll gate '?
just wanna have fun , and ride ... and ....... ride
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #103 on: March 21, 2013, 07:43:48 pm »
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2013, 07:01:00 am »
I use to pay each one. Now I pay for every second one. Only fair. Thanks Pistol.
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #105 on: March 24, 2013, 05:46:09 am »
I have never skipped a toll, but then again we don't have that many down here yet.

I personally object to paying the same price as a 4x4 with a trailer if I am on a bike, I really feel that a bike should get a consession. That being said I am sticky when it comes to paying for things, if there is a charge I will pay it no matter how much it gets under my skin or pisses me off.

I went to a bakery today.. I ordered 3 red velved cupcakes for the ladies in the office.

Got to the till.. R55.50 please  :o

I did'nt steal it because I thought it was too expensive, I had a choice, pay or don't pay, IMO same thing with tolls.



That is exactly my problem.  I go to Middleburg every now and then.  Why should I pay 40 rand like a 4x4?
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #106 on: March 24, 2013, 06:46:21 am »
That is exactly my problem.  I go to Middleburg every now and then.  Why should I pay 40 rand like a 4x4?

because it's the law.
look at oscar pistorius,  the world's darling.
went from not paying traffic fines to murder.
as some others on the forum will tell you,  crime starts with the small stuff...
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #107 on: March 24, 2013, 06:49:17 am »
That is exactly my problem.  I go to Middleburg every now and then.  Why should I pay 40 rand like a 4x4?

because it's the law.
look at oscar pistorius,  the world's darling.
went from not paying traffic fines to murder.
as some others on the forum will tell you,  crime starts with the small stuff...

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #108 on: March 24, 2013, 06:51:14 am »
On a related subject, has anyone themselves, or even heard of anyone who has been prosecuted in any way ?

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think he got a letter of demand or something.
should have left his numberplate at home....

See this thread. http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7358.0

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #109 on: March 24, 2013, 08:05:51 am »
Ek is maar n novice biker so het nognie begin skip nie
maar die cagers raak te bliksem in vir my terwyl ek my
gloves afhaal beursie soek, geld uithaal, kleingeld weer in die beursie
sit, 2 rand laat val, dit optel, gloves aan, en dan ry.

So maybe doen julle dit om die cagers se lewens makliker te maak :)
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #110 on: March 24, 2013, 09:42:19 am »
whats a 'toll gate '?

Better known as a Stop and Go  :imaposer:
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #111 on: March 24, 2013, 10:05:27 pm »
Nope I am a Toll Gate Skipper and proud to be one.
Will keep on doing it till they give the bikes our own fare.

For every gate I have skipped I can show them at least 2 pot holes that need fixing.

Reminds me of this licence disc sticker I saw , it shows the disc but also states below for the piggy :"I have paid my taxes, now go fix some f*&^ing pot holes please." Thought that was pretty cool :-)
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #112 on: March 25, 2013, 04:57:05 am »
I have always paid, but it is unjust to make me pay what I consider a disproportional payment.
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #113 on: March 28, 2013, 11:43:27 pm »
Refuse to pay.
 :middlefinger: hulle veskriklik.
Until these authorities stop abusing us.
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #114 on: March 29, 2013, 08:51:24 am »
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #115 on: March 29, 2013, 09:48:23 pm »
Could not imagine to take the tunnel and then even pay for it unless if there is a hectic electric stom on the pass (not often here thanks heavens).
And Chappies is totally overrated, a bloody tourist trap! I happily do it once a year and for free (kind of) when I do the Argus. If I want to ride a stunning and exciting coastal road I go from Gordons Bay to Rooi Els.

Only othwer toll roads I was ever confronted with was Bloukraans River Bridge where we always and more than happily used the alternative route through Nature's Valley and the pass and out of Pretoria to the North where we used the alternative route too.

Never paid, totally legal! :thumleft:
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #116 on: April 02, 2013, 12:59:36 pm »
When we are 2 bikes we stop next to each other (4-wheels) I pay for one bike and we go together. How can this be wrong?
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #117 on: April 02, 2013, 01:08:58 pm »
That is exactly my problem.  I go to Middleburg every now and then.  Why should I pay 40 rand like a 4x4?

because it's the law.
look at oscar pistorius,  the world's darling.
went from not paying traffic fines to murder.
as some others on the forum will tell you,  crime starts with the small stuff...
Oh please blow me, coming from you??? The one who stops to ask what it costs then bolts off saying to expensive.
Since my life NO, I pay fuel levy and tax.
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #118 on: April 02, 2013, 01:13:08 pm »
That is exactly my problem.  I go to Middleburg every now and then.  Why should I pay 40 rand like a 4x4?

because it's the law.
look at oscar pistorius,  the world's darling.
went from not paying traffic fines to murder.
as some others on the forum will tell you,  crime starts with the small stuff...
Oh please blow me, coming from you??? The one who stops to ask what it costs then bolts off saying to expensive.
Since my life NO, I pay fuel levy and tax.
Sheesh Cockster.

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #119 on: April 02, 2013, 01:38:35 pm »
Could not imagine to take the tunnel and then even pay for it unless if there is a hectic electric stom on the pass (not often here thanks heavens).
And Chappies is totally overrated, a bloody tourist trap! I happily do it once a year and for free (kind of) when I do the Argus. If I want to ride a stunning and exciting coastal road I go from Gordons Bay to Rooi Els.

Only othwer toll roads I was ever confronted with was Bloukraans River Bridge where we always and more than happily used the alternative route through Nature's Valley and the pass and out of Pretoria to the North where we used the alternative route too.

Never paid, totally legal! :thumleft:

They've now placed booths on the Natures valley road as well since they fixed the road. Now alternative route. I asked them the other day and I was told to turn back and do the R62. Fuck that's like a 100+ K's back and then the same to be where I was at that moment, had to pay. The manager was the only one to discuss this problem with and he was conveniently not available.