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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #80 on: March 20, 2013, 02:36:13 pm »
And yet in the WC they have bike retes on the tolls.
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #81 on: March 20, 2013, 03:39:15 pm »
Once the government has their way, and switches on our fantastic highway tax collection system, are all the people that are up in arms about E-Toll and rufuce to pay still going to carrying on paying the outrageous bike prices at the booths?
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #82 on: March 20, 2013, 03:47:15 pm »
Once the government has their way, and switches on our fantastic highway tax collection system, are all the people that are up in arms about E-Toll and rufuce to pay still going to carrying on paying the outrageous bike prices at the booths?

not that I hope e-tolls become viable, but yes, that's exactly my point
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #83 on: March 20, 2013, 03:52:01 pm »
That one I got a tip off on getting past on gravel.

Share please.

The farmers used to have a road past the toll gate but it has been discontinued since they received concession.

Will get the details and post here. Was discussed at the Marico braai, and we used another route home so did not ride it yet.


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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #84 on: March 20, 2013, 03:52:16 pm »
i wonder if any biker associations have brought this matter to the N3TC or tolling companies.
Countless times....like water off a ducks back..


well maybe the issue should be raised again, as I would love an explanation on why e-tolls have a 40% discount for bikes and not the normal tolls - doesn't make sense, to me at least

You only gonna get 40% discount on e-tolls?  I'm gonna get 100% discount!  :biggrin: >:D :deal:
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #85 on: March 20, 2013, 04:00:19 pm »
i wonder if any biker associations have brought this matter to the N3TC or tolling companies.
Countless times....like water off a ducks back..


well maybe the issue should be raised again, as I would love an explanation on why e-tolls have a 40% discount for bikes and not the normal tolls - doesn't make sense, to me at least

You only gonna get 40% discount on e-tolls?  I'm gonna get 100% discount!  :biggrin: >:D :deal:

I am also in on the 100 % discount!
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #86 on: March 20, 2013, 04:00:57 pm »
i wonder if any biker associations have brought this matter to the N3TC or tolling companies.
Countless times....like water off a ducks back..


well maybe the issue should be raised again, as I would love an explanation on why e-tolls have a 40% discount for bikes and not the normal tolls - doesn't make sense, to me at least

You only gonna get 40% discount on e-tolls?  I'm gonna get 100% discount!  :biggrin: >:D :deal:

same here.... you must know my feelings towards e-tolls by now - I'll be a problematic customer  :sip:

But I was talking about the 'official rates'......
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #87 on: March 20, 2013, 04:01:54 pm »
i wonder if any biker associations have brought this matter to the N3TC or tolling companies.
Countless times....like water off a ducks back..


well maybe the issue should be raised again, as I would love an explanation on why e-tolls have a 40% discount for bikes and not the normal tolls - doesn't make sense, to me at least

You only gonna get 40% discount on e-tolls?  I'm gonna get 100% discount!  :biggrin: >:D :deal:

same here.... you must know my feelings towards e-tolls by now - I'll be a problematic customer  :sip:

But I was talking about the 'official rates'......

Yip, just pulling your leg a bit.   :biggrin:
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #88 on: March 20, 2013, 04:13:04 pm »
There is only one tollgate I ever really go through, the one before Huguenots tunnel.

I have never used it while on a bike. Why would you go through a dark, exhaust fume filled headache inducing tunnel when there is a awesome mountain pass to ride for free?



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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #89 on: March 20, 2013, 04:17:03 pm »
There is only one tollgate I ever really go through, the one before Huguenots tunnel.

I have never used it while on a bike. Why would you go through a dark, exhaust fume filled headache inducing tunnel when there is a awesome mountain pass to ride for free?



right you are grrrr... took the tunnel the other day on the bike just to see how it was... twatwaffle delux I is

I went through the tunnel on a bike once. Wanted to hear the Screaming Eagle pipes on the Harley in the tunnel. :D Sounded awesome but I almost suffocated!
 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #90 on: March 20, 2013, 04:37:45 pm »
I still dont get it though...

Dont they have cameras to check your plates?
Are your plates false?
Are your plates missing?
Do you ever get a fine in the post?

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I have never and will never pay for tolls untill the toll companies take a serious look at their fees.
I find it silly paying the same tolls as a vehicle or vehicle with trailer for that matter
My bike weighs less than 350Kg's filled with fuel and with me on it
The reason for tolls is for the tollcompany to maintain the roads
Main causes of roads needing repairs and maintenance is weight and overloading

I just pull up behind a vehicle - preferrably a taxi and tailgate through behind him ignoring the toll booth operator's frantic gestures and screams
Then i just smile as the bells go off and ride off
Who is going to fine you? - the toll road police?
asseblief man......get real - there is no such thing as a traffic offence connected with toll roads
They are private companies and have Nada to do with any or all police or Metro cops

Untill they conform and give us better prices.................F@ck them! :thumleft:

I'm afraid I'm with OS on this one!  The only time I am forced to pay is if there is no other traffic to follow through the boom!  I have been doing this for the last 10 years and have never had a fine, or got stopped!  Even here at Malelane, where the police sits right in front of the gate to search cars for illegal goods, the could not care less about the sirens going off when I skip through.  And lately I have noticed that the alarm doesn't even go off?  And I do have a number plate, it's just sometimes very dirty!

There is not a chance in hell I will pay the same when I ride my bike, as I do with my bakkie with two bikes on the back and a trailer with a bunch more on! 

'Cmon guys, those earlier comments about using the road and paying for it are just ridiculous!  Where does a bike damage the road as much as any of the other vehicles?

And like some of the comments, the money doesn't go to the Gov, it's private tolling companies.  And years ago, when my bike got damaged when I skidded on diesel and oil in the 'concrete lane', their response was that it must have been my bike leaking.  They did not see the sense in keeping the lanes clean. 

A lot of the overseas toll gates don't charge bikes (as mentioned in Peru earlier), they have separate narrow lanes.  It makes sense, as it is a mission to get money, wallet, card out.  And besides, people should be encouraged to ride more bikes, less traffic hassles, less wear & tear on roads, less fuel...

I try not to use toll roads, but to Marloth Park we have not found a way to get around it, unless maybe going through the township, which is a bad idea, just calling for flat tyres if we ride through their rubbish dumps.  Even to Jo'burg I have recently started going the alternative route again, just so I can skip the Middelburg Toll Plaza.  Besides, the N4 is horribly boring.

So F#)k them, they are not seeing any of my hard earned cash if I can help it!  >:D
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #91 on: March 20, 2013, 04:39:21 pm »
And yet in the WC they have bike retes on the tolls.


I only saw one toll gate, the one after the tunnel... and I skipped it.  Was quite chuffed to say I have now skipped toll gates in 4 provinces!  :imaposer:
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #92 on: March 20, 2013, 05:07:47 pm »
Agreed, sign me up for the 100% E-Toll discount too please :thumleft:
They want their money, prove to me exactly where I was, when it was and I will pay.
But don't just send me a bill, I have a right to goods or services and value for money, enuff said :o

As for the booths, drop the rates to something reasonable for a bike and I might consider it ;)
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #93 on: March 20, 2013, 05:13:04 pm »
Agreed, sign me up for the 100% E-Toll discount too please :thumleft:
They want their money, prove to me exactly where I was, when it was and I will pay.
But don't just send me a bill, I have a right to goods or services and value for money, enuff said :o

As for the booths, drop the rates to something reasonable for a bike and I might consider it ;)

there you go!  :thumleft: ;D

 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #94 on: March 20, 2013, 06:28:31 pm »
I am fortunate,  I own a garage plate which I keep under my seat, I never have a plate on unless I leave the SA borders, if stopped I take it out and show them and they always wave me on! ;D
Other day they stopped me for speeding, I stopped about 30m past the fat f**k, waited for him to walk all the way to me huffing and puffing then dropped the clutch as he was just about next to me, should have seen his face   :imaposer: too far to run back to the squad car, would have died of a heart attack if he tried!
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #95 on: March 20, 2013, 06:38:45 pm »
I am fortunate,  I own a garage plate which I keep under my seat, I never have a plate on unless I leave the SA borders, if stopped I take it out and show them and they always wave me on! ;D
Other day they stopped me for speeding, I stopped about 30m past the fat f**k, waited for him to walk all the way to me huffing and puffing then dropped the clutch as he was just about next to me, should have seen his face   :imaposer: too far to run back to the squad car, would have died of a heart attack if he tried!

The question is... do you pay at toll gates?   :deal:  :peepwall:  :pot:
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #96 on: March 20, 2013, 06:56:09 pm »
I am fortunate,  I own a garage plate which I keep under my seat, I never have a plate on unless I leave the SA borders, if stopped I take it out and show them and they always wave me on! ;D
Other day they stopped me for speeding, I stopped about 30m past the fat f**k, waited for him to walk all the way to me huffing and puffing then dropped the clutch as he was just about next to me, should have seen his face   :imaposer: too far to run back to the squad car, would have died of a heart attack if he tried!

The question is... do you pay at toll gates?   :deal:  :peepwall:  :pot:
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #97 on: March 20, 2013, 07:58:51 pm »
To pay toll when you are on a bike is like playing the Lotto , it's a tax on stupid people.
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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #98 on: March 20, 2013, 08:18:59 pm »
I am fortunate,  I own a garage plate which I keep under my seat, I never have a plate on unless I leave the SA borders, if stopped I take it out and show them and they always wave me on! ;D
Other day they stopped me for speeding, I stopped about 30m past the fat f**k, waited for him to walk all the way to me huffing and puffing then dropped the clutch as he was just about next to me, should have seen his face   :imaposer: too far to run back to the squad car, would have died of a heart attack if he tried!

The question is... do you pay at toll gates?   :deal:  :peepwall:  :pot:
Check my vote at the top of the page! :patch:  :pot:


Ach you silly... can't see who voted what!  But I'm guessing no, you don't...  ;) 

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Re: Toll gate skipping
« Reply #99 on: March 21, 2013, 09:40:21 am »
I still dont get it though...

Dont they have cameras to check your plates?
Are your plates false?
Are your plates missing?
Do you ever get a fine in the post?

 :peepwall:



I have never and will never pay for tolls untill the toll companies take a serious look at their fees.
I find it silly paying the same tolls as a vehicle or vehicle with trailer for that matter
My bike weighs less than 350Kg's filled with fuel and with me on it
The reason for tolls is for the tollcompany to maintain the roads
Main causes of roads needing repairs and maintenance is weight and overloading

I just pull up behind a vehicle - preferrably a taxi and tailgate through behind him ignoring the toll booth operator's frantic gestures and screams
Then i just smile as the bells go off and ride off
Who is going to fine you? - the toll road police?
asseblief man......get real - there is no such thing as a traffic offence connected with toll roads
They are private companies and have Nada to do with any or all police or Metro cops

Untill they conform and give us better prices.................F@ck them! :thumleft:

I'm afraid I'm with OS on this one!  The only time I am forced to pay is if there is no other traffic to follow through the boom!  I have been doing this for the last 10 years and have never had a fine, or got stopped!  Even here at Malelane, where the police sits right in front of the gate to search cars for illegal goods, the could not care less about the sirens going off when I skip through.  And lately I have noticed that the alarm doesn't even go off?  And I do have a number plate, it's just sometimes very dirty!

There is not a chance in hell I will pay the same when I ride my bike, as I do with my bakkie with two bikes on the back and a trailer with a bunch more on! 

'Cmon guys, those earlier comments about using the road and paying for it are just ridiculous!  Where does a bike damage the road as much as any of the other vehicles?

And like some of the comments, the money doesn't go to the Gov, it's private tolling companies.  And years ago, when my bike got damaged when I skidded on diesel and oil in the 'concrete lane', their response was that it must have been my bike leaking.  They did not see the sense in keeping the lanes clean. 

A lot of the overseas toll gates don't charge bikes (as mentioned in Peru earlier), they have separate narrow lanes.  It makes sense, as it is a mission to get money, wallet, card out.  And besides, people should be encouraged to ride more bikes, less traffic hassles, less wear & tear on roads, less fuel...

I try not to use toll roads, but to Marloth Park we have not found a way to get around it, unless maybe going through the township, which is a bad idea, just calling for flat tyres if we ride through their rubbish dumps.  Even to Jo'burg I have recently started going the alternative route again, just so I can skip the Middelburg Toll Plaza.  Besides, the N4 is horribly boring.

So F#)k them, they are not seeing any of my hard earned cash if I can help it!  >:D

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