Its gone crazy or is it just catching up on us?

[EssBee]

Gradual slide into 3rd world standards. Depressing thought. Law and Order is slowly deteriorating. Look at the examples set by SA's...errr...."top management"....'nuff said.

[subie]

Die jong seun Robert Baxter word vandag begrawe . Ook vermoor deur n motoris wat "nie gesien " het nie.
So onnodige tragedie. My seun sal nooit commute skool toe en terug.

[T Rex]

Die padsterftes bekommer my ook. Daar is net n totale " disregard " vir padreels. Maar dit is n mindset wat ek nie weet hoe dit verander kan word nie.

Dit is n geval van geen respek vir die wette nie, geen respek vir my lewe nie, geen respek vir n ander ou se reg om die pad te gebruik nie.

[Masai]

Verstaan ook nie altyd. Daar is 'n gebrek aan galantheid op ons paaie.
Maar die ander kant het ook waarheid. Sien gister 'n biker op sy nuwerige 1200GS. Hy staan op sy fiets in besige 17h00 verkeer en vleg teen verbysterende spoed deur 'n besige kruising. Iewers gaan iemand hom nie raaksien en word hy ook een van die statistiek.

[jaybiker]

Just got home in the cage. Not 10 minutes ago, I was approaching a robot in the queue, when the light changed. One guy went through on amber and two more followed on red. I was the mug who stopped, causing much anger and hooting from the taxi who I 'forced ' to stop centimetres from my rear. I anticipated the change to green and was ready to move off quite smartly, but not quickly enough for Julius Kwela who gave me another impatient blast. Crazy thing is that when he did get going he was so heavily laden that he pulled away as if he was hauling a 30 ton trailer. Wonder if I was on a bike whether he might have just moered me out of the way. It's a jungle out there.

[Just Blip It!]

Just got home in the cage. Not 10 minutes ago, I was approaching a robot in the queue, when the light changed. One guy went through on amber and two more followed on red. I was the mug who stopped, causing much anger and hooting from the taxi who I 'forced ' to stop centimetres from my rear. I anticipated the change to green and was ready to move off quite smartly, but not quickly enough for Julius Kwela who gave me another impatient blast. Crazy thing is that when he did get going he was so heavily laden that he pulled away as if he was hauling a 30 ton trailer. Wonder if I was on a bike whether he might have just moered me out of the way. It's a jungle out there.

I was in Zim recently, the cops were fining people for going through amber lights! Thought it was a bit ridiculous and unfair, but maybe its a good thing actually!

[EssBee]

Just got home in the cage. Not 10 minutes ago, I was approaching a robot in the queue, when the light changed. One guy went through on amber and two more followed on red. I was the mug who stopped, causing much anger and hooting from the taxi who I 'forced ' to stop centimetres from my rear. I anticipated the change to green and was ready to move off quite smartly, but not quickly enough for Julius Kwela who gave me another impatient blast. Crazy thing is that when he did get going he was so heavily laden that he pulled away as if he was hauling a 30 ton trailer. Wonder if I was on a bike whether he might have just moered me out of the way. It's a jungle out there.

'kin unbelievable.....they bring out the worst in you...can turn a normally rational person into a violent 'madman'...

[Just Blip It!]

There are definitely more biker related accidents, but I think also that communication through the internet, forums, new channels, social media is also far more prevalent, so because of this news travels faster, further and wider than ever before, so we all know about it. In the past the news never really made it to everyone, so ignorance was bliss.............so to speak.

[Grrrr....]

People are nuts, and it is getting worse. It is also not just the taxis but the average soccer mom is also driving like there is no tomorrow.

This morning I took my son for a haircut and on my way home decided to stop at Bayside Mall. I was nearing the main intersection turning right across into Bayside. As I got to the traffic light it turned and I stopped but the two cars in front of me both went over the red. I just shook my head....

Then came my turn, a right arrow indicating I can now go. Something caught my eye from the left and I braked just in time to avoid a taxi blasting through the red. Not amber, not green it was a solid red light and probably was for minutes already. He just decided @#$% it and went and did not even slack down. I see this DAILY!!!!!! And where are the so called traffic cops? Sitting behind a bush in some suburb catching the real criminals doing 70 in a 60 Zone.....

[KiLRoy]

Grrr, that's exactly what I'm talking about.  I'm paranoid of green lights nowadays.  I mean, traffic rules install some sense of trust, trust that if my light is green you will stop for your red light. Well that sense of trust is gone.

[Chris_M]

Greer, that's exactly what I'm talking about.  I'm paranoid of green lights nowadays.  I mean, traffic rules install some sense of trust, trust that if my light is green you will stop for your red light. Well that sense of trust is gone.

The stats are there, skilled or not skilled if you ride a motorcycle you run the risk of getting taken out.
I think many of our fatalities have been prudent riders and are parents too which leads me to presume its seldom cowboy behavior on the bikers side.

Ride safe folks

[LeonDude]

I firmly believe that the largest part of the accidents are caused by people bribing cops and by cops being bribed by people.

Think about it, if people KNEW that they were going to get a big fine for traffic violations, they wouldn't commit them. But no, traffic cops can be bribed and the traffic cops are simply not enforcing the rules. So the roads are now a free - for - all, biggest cage wins, fastest car is the coollest

Want to find a way to stop the carnage on the road? Then find a way to stop the bribery.

[buzzlightyear]

+1

[LoneRunner]

Me thinks too many cages on the roads nowadays in and around the main centers of our country. I visit JHB only once in a blue moon an can really see how the traffic increase since every last visit.
The government will have to to something about a proper public transport service to get the numbers down...

[badballie]

Or is it a case of when in Rome .............................

We have this little 3 way stop street on the main road into our suburb.

The road also leads to the tribal area, so kind of a thorough through to the highway.

Normally it was the taxi's and skedonks that just blasted through the Stop street without even slowing down, these days it is soccer moms, laaities, Mercs you name it.

After years of seeing everyone get away with it, seems now all seem to think fk it, I am doing the same.

[Veldbrand]

Greer, that's exactly what I'm talking about.  I'm paranoid of green lights nowadays.  I mean, traffic rules install some sense of trust, trust that if my light is green you will stop for your red light. Well that sense of trust is gone.

Call me names and spiteful but this is one of the reasons why we moved to a one horse town with about 9 stop streets and not a single traffic light.
In fact 9km’s away from it and even when we go there, people actually stop at them.
I dealt with Jozi, CT and Pta commuting and this type of madness for long enough thank you very please.
Thankfully we survived it in one piece after countless near misses as described by many above that happened on a daily basis.
Sure there’s the issue of making a living, not enjoying certain luxuries and not being able to buy a new bike ever so often but I’m sooo happy, way more chilled, actually have some nails at the ends of my fingers and don’t fly off the handle for the slightest reason no more.
De-urbanise people, get the &^$%#@! out of those big cities and come live the simple life in an environment where people do still actually care about their neighbours and you can live to tell the tale.

[J-dog]

Gradual slide into 3rd world standards. Depressing thought. Law and Order is slowly deteriorating. Look at the examples set by SA's...errr...."top management"....'nuff said.

The real problem is 3rd world drivers and police, coupled with FAST CARS and FAST BIKES.

Most other third world countries have the same shitty drivers, police, etc, but their cars/skedonks/scooters don't go very fast.

There are plenty of minor accidents in those countries, generally nothing serious.

We have fast wheels and use them fast.

[Ganjora]

I'm paranoid of green lights nowadays.  

get with the program fat boy...

green means go;
orange means accelerate;
and red means go through at full speed - thus decreasing your time in the middle of the intersection...

[katana]

Or is it a case of when in Rome .............................

We have this little 3 way stop street on the main road into our suburb.

The road also leads to the tribal area, so kind of a thorough through to the highway.

Normally it was the taxi's and skedonks that just blasted through the Stop street without even slowing down, these days it is soccer moms, laaities, Mercs you name it.

After years of seeing everyone get away with it, seems now all seem to think fk it, I am doing the same.

+1

[katana]

Greer, that's exactly what I'm talking about.  I'm paranoid of green lights nowadays.  I mean, traffic rules install some sense of trust, trust that if my light is green you will stop for your red light. Well that sense of trust is gone.

Call me names and spiteful but this is one of the reasons why we moved to a one horse town with about 9 stop streets and not a single traffic light.
In fact 9km’s away from it and even when we go there, people actually stop at them.
I dealt with Jozi, CT and Pta commuting and this type of madness for long enough thank you very please.
Thankfully we survived it in one piece after countless near misses as described by many above that happened on a daily basis.
Sure there’s the issue of making a living, not enjoying certain luxuries and not being able to buy a new bike ever so often but I’m sooo happy, way more chilled, actually have some nails at the ends of my fingers and don’t fly off the handle for the slightest reason no more.
De-urbanise people, get the &^$%#@! out of those big cities and come live the simple life in an environment where people do still actually care about their neighbours and you can live to tell the tale.

My ambition and part of my 5 year plan, if I make it that long