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DRZ Oil
« on: May 10, 2013, 11:44:40 am »
Can I just run actyvo in the Dizzer? Whats the suggested oil change intervals?
 

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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 07:04:34 pm »
Actevo yes. The book says 6000km for road use, 1000km for off-road use. Also very important on any dirt bike that has its filter under the seat is to wash the filter after every ride. By that I mean the 3 hour ride that leaves you and the tank drained, not the 30 minute dirt road cruise to check the game fencing.  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 07:40:26 pm »
nah i gots that covered. the filter is clean and oiled. how many oil filters are on the drz. easy to change?
 

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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 07:43:14 pm »
After a long chat with Julian (Wrench on wd's) I decided that it would be a bad idea to change the oil more frequently than 2500km to avoid dumping hte oil before it can start the process of breaking down. I recall one of the reason was to avoid caking the cylinder? Really cant recall the specifics, will google around a bit

that said DRZ = mineral oil
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2013, 07:59:40 pm »
Only used Actevo in mine, never a problem. Changed mine every 3000km. Only 1 oil filter, make sure the o-ring is in place when installing the new one.
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 09:30:19 pm »
Yeah. Don't use synthetic oil.
Actevo is the stuff.
Change around 3000kms. Like n[]va says, changing sooner the oil doesn't have a chance to break down.
1 air filter (clean after every proper dirt ride)
1 oil filter (change with oil every 3000kms).
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2013, 08:28:33 am »
Yeah. Don't use synthetic oil...

And why would that be please ???
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2013, 10:29:47 am »
nah i gots that covered. the filter is clean and oiled. how many oil filters are on the drz. easy to change?

One oil filter in the engine. One intake screen at the bottom of the oil reservoir.
Don't worry too much about the oil screen. Must only be checked at the 1000km service or after the engine had serious work done. Or especially when some xxxx assembled using plenty of gasket maker. Little chance of anything acumulating in there unless your engine is busy self disassembling some of its components.

The oil filter in the engine is dead easy to change. Change at least with every second oil change. Cheap enough to do with every oil change.

Oil recommendations as per Torque Curves reply. Use anything that fulfils JASO MA spec. 10W40 viscosity or better. Castrol ActEvo 4T is absolutely fine.

Oil change interval depends on how you use the bike and what quality oil you use. 6000km or annually - whatever comes first - would be a minimum requirement.
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2013, 05:57:55 pm »
Yeah. Don't use synthetic oil...

And why would that be please ???

I can't remember. Someone explained to me about the additives in synthetic oil not being good for the clutch or something. I forget. But that's the general wisdom.

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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2013, 06:41:13 pm »
Yeah. Don't use synthetic oil...

And why would that be please ???

I can't remember. Someone explained to me about the additives in synthetic oil not being good for the clutch or something. I forget. But that's the general wisdom.

You don't like DRZs. Do you?
DRZ is not as stressed as a full blown enduro 4T, Actevo is R50 - R60 a liter while fully synthetic is double that and not needed for this motor.
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2013, 12:47:13 pm »
Yeah. Don't use synthetic oil...

And why would that be please ???

I can't remember. Someone explained to me about the additives in synthetic oil not being good for the clutch or something. I forget. But that's the general wisdom.

You don't like DRZs. Do you?

The "synthetic oil makes your clutch slip" myth dates back to some early synthetic car engine oils which - besides being made from synthetic base stock - contained friction modifier additives. It was never the synthetic base stock but always the friction modifier additives (stuff like graphite and MoS2) that caused problems.
The manufacturers did not bother to specifically announce that the oils contained stuff which makes them unsuitable for wet clutch bike engines since the oils were formulated for cars.

Oils containing friction modifiers can be recognised from the term "Energy conserving" in the API service class roundel.

Fortunately the Japanese cleared up all the guess work which oil you should use in your bike and which one you should not. Oils fulfilling JASO MA standards are suitable for bike engines with wet clutch and gearbox in the engine oil.

The one and only limitation of synthetic engine oils is you should not use it in rotary (Wankel) engines.

On the positive side a synthetic oil gives you better viscosity performance at service temperature extremes, better chemical & shear stability, decreased evaporative loss and better resistance to oxidation and thermal breakdown.

And yes I do like DRZ's. The only reason why I never bought one was because for 8 years I always had a new DR650 at my disposal. I usually rode the newest of the bike hire bikes myself. The DRZ would have meant to get a dedicated bike for myself and I would have still needed a 650 for the guided tours.
DRZ 400 as bike hire bike would probably have ended in tears :-\
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2013, 12:54:56 pm »
Yeah. Don't use synthetic oil...

And why would that be please ???

I can't remember. Someone explained to me about the additives in synthetic oil not being good for the clutch or something. I forget. But that's the general wisdom.

You don't like DRZs. Do you?
DRZ is not as stressed as a full blown enduro 4T, Actevo is R50 - R60 a liter while fully synthetic is double that and not needed for this motor.

Fully synthetic Ravenol Moto SAE5W40 and off course JASO MA compliant is R 72 per litre :thumleft:

And it won't cake your cylinder ??? ::) Feel free to google around a bit
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2013, 05:09:09 pm »
Serviced my DRZ today and found some metal in the screen, not enough to clog the screen but just a bit to be concerned, no metal on the magnetic sump plug, always run on Activa and service every 3000 change the filter with every service, but have never checked the screen. What gives:-\
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2013, 08:15:27 pm »
Serviced my DRZ today and found some metal in the screen, not enough to clog the screen but just a bit to be concerned, no metal on the magnetic sump plug, always run on Activa and service every 3000 change the filter with every service, but have never checked the screen. What gives:-\
That is normal since very few people clean that screen after buying the bike new. Most likely from when the motor was new and running in. Check it at the next service, mine had the same but never any problems.
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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2013, 08:45:29 pm »
My oil filter didn't have the small o-ring should I be worried?
Also any idea if I should loctite the stator bike has 9000km already.
 

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Re: DRZ Oil
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2013, 10:52:46 pm »
My oil filter didn't have the small o-ring should I be worried?
Also any idea if I should loctite the stator bike has 9000km already.
On my first oil change the o ring was also missing, just make sure you get a replacement. It's easy to misplace or throw away with the old filter if you do not know about it. Stator rather safe than sorry although if it was too loose it from the factory you would have known about it by now  :biggrin:
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2013, 11:07:36 pm »
Thanks I think I'll do that on the next oil change, I need a spare gasket still in case I break the current one.

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