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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2013, 09:41:45 am »
...In my opinion, BMW is the obvious leader in the adventure bike market, with the rest playing the carch up game...

Oh my! ::)
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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2013, 09:44:52 am »
...In my opinion, BMW is the obvious leader in the adventure bike market, with the rest playing the carch up game...

Oh my! ::)


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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2013, 09:48:40 am »
...In my opinion, BMW is the obvious leader in the adventure bike market, with the rest playing the carch up game...

Oh my! ::)

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2013, 12:13:54 pm »

In my opinion, BMW is the obvious UNITS SOLD leader (FOR A SINGLE PREVIOUS-EDITION MODEL) in the adventure bike market, with the rest playing the catch up game.

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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2013, 12:33:41 pm »
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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2013, 09:10:06 pm »
Will be riding my GSA until these probs ( whether they exist or not) are sorted???
 

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2013, 08:51:22 pm »
I have picked up a problem with my steering on what feels like a serious instability or headshake what every you want to call it. Try the following, close your throttle on about 80km/h and hold your handle bars very lightly. My LC devolps a serious headshake that quickly becomes a Tankslapper, personally this could not be normal? Have done a long trip over the weekend and had lots of time to play around with all possible mode settings and tyre pressure and nothing made any difference to the issue. All that I think that it could be is a tyre problem. I have the Tourance tyres on the bike with about 2400km on .

Anybody else experience this?



 

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2013, 08:55:17 pm »
Will try it over the weekend and give feedback on Monday, if the LC didn't shake me off
 

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2013, 08:59:15 pm »
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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2013, 07:39:29 am »
I have picked up a problem with my steering on what feels like a serious instability or headshake what every you want to call it. Try the following, close your throttle on about 80km/h and hold your handle bars very lightly. My LC devolps a serious headshake that quickly becomes a Tankslapper, personally this could not be normal? Have done a long trip over the weekend and had lots of time to play around with all possible mode settings and tyre pressure and nothing made any difference to the issue. All that I think that it could be is a tyre problem. I have the Tourance tyres on the bike with about 2400km on .

Anybody else experience this?

I tried this last night and this morning, did not experience this. We have the same setup on the bikes (even down to the colour  :ricky:), tyres etc (except I don't have a topbox, see below)

Also saw something about this on UKGser. The guy experienced the same thing, removed his BMW topbox and it stopped doing it!  :pot:



 
 

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2013, 07:46:16 am »
Thank goodness I kept my 1150 Adventure is all I can say!

When someone like GSing , who has owned and ridden almost every type of boxer GS, tells you there is a headshake you can believe it because it is based on experience gained over thousands of km actually ridden on various bikes . Now, is there a suspension issue, a design issue, a tyre issue ? Who knows ? Will BMW admit to this ? Wrong!!!!!!

Remember the lean burn problem on the 2006/2007 1200"s ?

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2013, 08:04:56 am »
If there is a head shake, leading to a slapper problem, then this is very serious indeed.
 

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Re: Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2013, 08:41:36 am »
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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2013, 09:08:23 am »
Been a while since I had a slapper
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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2013, 10:15:56 am »
I have had my LC since April and can report on the headshake issue. I have tested this on mine and am getting the same thing only less pronounced, I am almost certain it has something to do with the tourance tyres as it appears to get worse as the tyres wear down. I would love to try a different tyre, but these have only done 4000km. I am however disappointed in these Tourance Next tyres, even if they don't cause the head shake, they are very slippery on dry tar and life threatening on road markings. I have not really tested them on wet roads yet, but they are reasonable on dirt.
I loved the previous tourance tyres on my GSA but these new ones do not impress me at all. I will try the Anakee III tyres next, although I hated the Anakee I and Anakee II tyres as the front wore unevenly and caused the front to develop a vibration, and the rear wore ridiculously fast. The Anakee III however is a completely different tyre.
Regarding all the other problems so lovingly repeated over and over on this thread:
1- The clutch is not as nice as the new KTM's, that said it is important to check the fluid level as it appears that almost all of the new bikes have an over filled reservoir which causes the clutch to behave erratically. Once corrected it is a lot better. The gearbox has always been clunky and it appears it still is.
2- I have done 4000km and my rear pads still look new. The guy complaining may have had a binding issue on his.
3- No problems with the rear drive gator on mine or anyone I have talked to.
4- I don't have the vario's but we did fit a set when I was deciding whether to buy them and they fit fine. I guess the guy complaining may have had a factory fault on his.

Personally I love my LC and would recommend it to anyone who asks.
 

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2013, 10:20:13 am »
I have had my LC since April and can report on the headshake issue. I have tested this on mine and am getting the same thing only less pronounced, I am almost certain it has something to do with the tourance tyres as it appears to get worse as the tyres wear down. I would love to try a different tyre, but these have only done 4000km. I am however disappointed in these Tourance Next tyres, even if they don't cause the head shake, they are very slippery on dry tar and life threatening on road markings. I have not really tested them on wet roads yet, but they are reasonable on dirt.
I loved the previous tourance tyres on my GSA but these new ones do not impress me at all. I will try the Anakee III tyres next, although I hated the Anakee I and Anakee II tyres as the front wore unevenly and caused the front to develop a vibration, and the rear wore ridiculously fast. The Anakee III however is a completely different tyre.
Regarding all the other problems so lovingly repeated over and over on this thread:
1- The clutch is not as nice as the new KTM's, that said it is important to check the fluid level as it appears that almost all of the new bikes have an over filled reservoir which causes the clutch to behave erratically. Once corrected it is a lot better. The gearbox has always been clunky and it appears it still is.
2- I have done 4000km and my rear pads still look new. The guy complaining may have had a binding issue on his.
3- No problems with the rear drive gator on mine or anyone I have talked to.
4- I don't have the vario's but we did fit a set when I was deciding whether to buy them and they fit fine. I guess the guy complaining may have had a factory fault on his.

Personally I love my LC and would recommend it to anyone who asks.


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agree with you.  I have the Anakee IIIs - no shake issues just irritating hum which is improving with wear.


 

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2013, 10:23:19 am »
1- The clutch is not as nice as the new KTM's, that said it is important to check the fluid level as it appears that almost all of the new bikes have an over filled reservoir which causes the clutch to behave erratically. Once corrected it is a lot better. The gearbox has always been clunky and it appears it still is.
2- I have done 4000km and my rear pads still look new. The guy complaining may have had a binding issue on his.
3- No problems with the rear drive gator on mine or anyone I have talked to.
4- I don't have the vario's but we did fit a set when I was deciding whether to buy them and they fit fine. I guess the guy complaining may have had a factory fault on his.

Personally I love my LC and would recommend it to anyone who asks.


Agreed 100%, love the bike  :ricky: :ricky:
 

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2013, 10:24:30 am »
Mine has the Anakees III's on, I have not experience any headshake whatsoever. That said I have only done 1300 K's so far, with about 700 K's on dirt and gravel roads.

Will test the 80 Km/h shake this weekend

The tires do have a pretty loud hum though!
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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2013, 10:36:51 am »
I have picked up a problem with my steering on what feels like a serious instability or headshake what every you want to call it. Try the following, close your throttle on about 80km/h and hold your handle bars very lightly. My LC devolps a serious headshake that quickly becomes a Tankslapper, personally this could not be normal? Have done a long trip over the weekend and had lots of time to play around with all possible mode settings and tyre pressure and nothing made any difference to the issue. All that I think that it could be is a tyre problem. I have the Tourance tyres on the bike with about 2400km on .

Anybody else experience this?






THIS is what I was talking about..... some people will have problems - other's not! 
Somewhere there's issues and BMW needs to have this resolved before it kills more people..........?

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Re: Problems with the new LC
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2013, 01:16:35 pm »
Will a steering damper fix head-shake?

List of changes for the 2014 R1200GS

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  • Dynamic ESA can now be ordered separately, independently of the riding modes.
  • The existing five modes are no longer available as an optional extra.
  • Steering damper as standard.
  • White-coated coil springs with the option Dynamic ESA
  • Altered features for the package options “Dynamic Performance,” “Comfort” and “Touring”.
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