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Offline Wookie

How not to start your trials bike!!!!!!
« Reply #220 on: August 04, 2014, 08:09:11 am »
So in the 5 years I have been riding my worst injury has been caused by a lightweight bike that was not even running at the time  ;D

Stalled on a hill and missed kicked the lever.....
End result was the kick start lever embedded in my leg just below the knee and under the edge of knee guard.

It did not puncture my riding pants at all so did not think much about it. Still rode for about an hour and a half before I had the "squishy boot" feeling    :imaposer:

 Dumb Ass!!!!

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #221 on: August 04, 2014, 09:49:31 pm »
Eina!

Hope it looks worse that it really was  :o :-\
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #222 on: August 05, 2014, 07:31:49 am »
It's never too bad, as long as you have GOOD drugs!  Or so I heard on Saturday evening...!  :)
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #223 on: August 05, 2014, 09:04:16 am »
Ooooh good drugs are your friend...... :thumleft:


@ Alan.... went all the way to bone and nicked the tendon on the way.
And that was one with the blunt end of the kick start.
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #224 on: August 05, 2014, 09:43:23 am »
Makes my eye's water thinking about it!  Very nasty!

Hope you are well on the way to recovery!
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #225 on: August 05, 2014, 09:57:38 am »
Thanks Alan..... Should be all good soon.

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #226 on: August 27, 2014, 02:21:51 pm »
Need to give my Rev3 an oil change.

The recommended oil as per the hand book is 20W40 but I see a lot of people are using ATF in order to minimize the dreaded clutch drag, which my Rev3 has an issue with

Any recommendations from from our local riders as to what works / they have tried ....

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #227 on: August 27, 2014, 04:03:49 pm »
I use ATF     - clutch drags.
Tried 20W40 - clutch drags.
Did the clutch plate mod. Filed the tabs on all the steel plates. Took HOURS - clutch drags.
What a ..............drag.
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #228 on: August 27, 2014, 04:10:42 pm »
Thanks Espresso,

I had hoped to avoid doing the clutch mod but might just have to....

Will give the ATF a go and see what happens.
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #229 on: August 27, 2014, 06:16:47 pm »
I suppose I should try to quantify how much drag?
It's not that I can't hold the bike back and in fact some riders prefer t have the constant drag because it gives you something to work against.
What I don't like is when you start the bike, put it in gear and it just takes off until the oil warms up. What I try to do now is warm up the bike and then gingerly try the gears - particularly after the bike has been standing for a while.
 

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #230 on: August 28, 2014, 07:55:35 am »
Sounds about the same as the drag I am getting.

It seems to free up quicker if I put the bike in 3rd and rock it gently (with the clutch lever pulled) to "break" the clutch free before I start. Once started then ride around in 2nd /3rd with the lever pulled until it starts to free up.
Once warmed up the clutch does release but still has a "torque converter" type of feeling to it.

Hoping a thinner oil will help this a bit

Is the GG any better than the Beta with regards to the clutch drag?
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #231 on: August 28, 2014, 10:37:33 am »
The Gasgas has virtually no clutch drag.
My Rev3 is a 2003. My Gasgas is a 2006.
There seems to have been a huge change over those years.
The GG is way lighter feeling  and revs up quicker. The GG is ridden more with the throttle, the Rev3 more with the clutch.
The Rev3 is great for trail riding though - much smoother.
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #232 on: August 28, 2014, 11:09:14 am »
My Rev3 is a 2004, so possibly still has the same clutch issues as yours then.

This is my first trials bike so have no other reference as to performance. weight, etc.
Quite keen on an EVO.... never ridden one but there is something about the looks that just appeals  ;D
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #233 on: August 28, 2014, 12:51:18 pm »
I have has a 2001 Montessa with virtually no clutch drag.

Then got a 2006 Gas Gas 280 with the regular 2 stroke clutch drag, any wet clutch has engagement issues when cold.

Now have a 2014 Gas Gas 300 with the same amount of drag as the 2006 had. I have tried different oils always have the same amount of drag. over the years I have just learnt to accept it and ride accordingly.

Must also add that the 2006 was Brian Cappers bike, I asked him and his response was that it is normal. If he says so I am willing to accept that (frikkin clubman) :imaposer:

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #234 on: August 28, 2014, 01:07:33 pm »
(frikkin clubman) :imaposer:



Think you might have just hit the nail on the head  ;D
Maybe I just need to get used to it  :3some:
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #235 on: August 28, 2014, 01:56:15 pm »
(frikkin clubman) :imaposer:



Think you might have just hit the nail on the head  ;D
Maybe I just need to get used to it  :3some:

Ill ask Tony Bou when he comes for his riding lesson next week, don't know if I should trust the Spaniard though, apparently he can ride a trails bike, will have to wait and see. :ricky:
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #236 on: August 28, 2014, 02:44:24 pm »
Never heard of him.... :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #237 on: August 28, 2014, 03:04:57 pm »

Then got a 2006 Gas Gas 280 with the regular 2 stroke clutch drag, any wet clutch has engagement issues when cold.




My 2006 Gas Gas 280 has almost no drag if I use ATF.
 

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #238 on: August 29, 2014, 08:38:30 am »
Think I might have found part of the problem......

Dropped the oil last night and it was rather black.  :P
Re-filled with ATF and will give her a test tomorrow.

What is the recommended oil change interval on trials bikes?
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #239 on: August 29, 2014, 09:36:28 am »
I occasionally refill with parrafin, Ride for a couple of muinutes to loosen all the gunk, then replace with oil. Helps a lot.
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