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The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« on: July 16, 2013, 10:48:46 am »
After reading this post I thought, lets start a thread for general discussion for us wannabees, with some help along the way from the manne who can

I would also like to know what it feels like to ride something like this. How do we mere mortals compare to the pros?

Will it ever be possible for a weekend rider to use this bike to get up ledges etc? The pro's make it look so easy, that's why I would like to know how it compares to your regular enduro bike

Ask me a gain a year from now. I'v always enjoyed slow technical and dare say I'm fairly skilled at it. Trials riding has always been something I've wanted to do, but life kept on interrupting, and only now did I get a bike. A Sherco 290.

Been on one "ride" and man did it hurt. Did some nice little climbs and stuff. Yes I think one can pick up some skill, no matter why you do it. I'll never be Tony Bou, but I want to learn and enjoy it. Don't know if I'll compete though.

I'm am very fortunate to have Tony Orey, former SA Champ, as my "coach". What a nice guy, and boy can he ride.

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2013, 10:52:07 am »
O yes ! A pic and my son playing around in the yard. Anything to get him out the room away from his computer.

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2013, 10:53:46 am »
 :happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2013, 01:38:59 pm »
You've done a lot more than many of us already Jupiter. Tell us more please, and what you have been learning to do.
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2013, 01:46:52 pm »
You've done a lot more than many of us already Jupiter. Tell us more please, and what you have been learning to do.

I would over the years have given a lot to swap you for one enduro race.  :thumleft: But that's past now, so I'm really looking forward to my rock-hopping.

Sofar its just balance excercises, static and moving. Other important excercise is a controlled front wheel lift. Body position is most important and effects everything you do on the bike.

Next I have to learn, unlike DS riding, is shorter focus where I look. I tend to follow my training and look too far ahead. In this the target is usually right in front of you. So its short focus shifts, not fixating and its quick.

But first, balance !
« Last Edit: July 16, 2013, 01:50:49 pm by jupiter »
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2013, 02:08:24 pm »


But first, balance !

and a helmet... those beasties get away from you very quickly when thing go slightly wrong....

Don't ask how I know.
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2013, 02:19:42 pm »
:happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably

Most of the guys ride at olifantsfontein on Saturday mornings - I think they meet at the barn.
I have awesome trial riding next to my house, so usually can't be bothered with trailers & things & just ride from home.
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2013, 02:24:13 pm »
:happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably

Most of the guys ride at olifantsfontein on Saturday mornings - I think they meet at the barn.
I have awesome trial riding next to my house, so usually can't be bothered with trailers & things & just ride from home.

Thanks. There is not much around my place that I can't ride with my 800 so no point in doing that on a trials bike
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2013, 02:24:32 pm »


But first, balance !

and a helmet... those beasties get away from you very quickly when thing go slightly wrong....

Don't ask how I know.

Yip, the laaite says, "I'm just going to play a bit" but won't realise thats the most dangerous. The helmet is there.

I have a nice garden for training. That tree has three roots of different hight sticking out. Every afternoon we take one excercise and practice for 15 minutes.

And then accross the road from me, in a river valley is an awesome training area. Lots of varied terrain where you can keep yourself busy for hours in a short space. Some of it will make the best's eyes water.
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2013, 02:48:04 pm »
Some points of note by espresso in answaer to Pom17's question :

Trials bikes are the most advanced of offroad bikes. they can do ANYTHING and go ANYWHERE - if you know how to ride them.
The steering is very very direct - at first you have to concentrate just to go in a straight line.
The steering stops are almost non existant - a bit disconcerting at first.
The footpegs are very far back - if your weight isn't in the right place wheelie time!
The accelleration (torque) is fierce.
Braking is sharp - one finger only.
The trials tyres grip almost all the time. Forget about power slides.

There is quite a lot to get used to but it doesn't take that long to ride around and hop the odd log.
Jumping up ledges............................yeeeeeeew.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2013, 03:25:56 pm »
:happy1:

Does anyone know any good places to do trial riding in GP? East of PTA preferably

Most of the guys ride at olifantsfontein on Saturday mornings - I think they meet at the barn.
I have awesome trial riding next to my house, so usually can't be bothered with trailers & things & just ride from home.

At the back of the Big Red Barn in olifantsfontein.

They have some nice concrete pipes and logs setup.
I usually see guys practicing on saturday mornings when I do trail running there.
 

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2013, 03:55:19 pm »
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trials ry :spitcoffee:
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2013, 04:28:58 pm »
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trailriding :spitcoffee:
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Trail riding doen ek al van jonks af... nou wil ek trials doen
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2013, 04:31:40 pm »
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trailriding :spitcoffee:
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Trail riding doen ek al van jonks af... nou wil ek trials doen

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2013, 04:38:34 pm »
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trials ry :spitcoffee:
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Jys net jaloers oor daai trials fietsies sal knak as jy op die ding klim  :pot:
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2013, 04:54:44 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2013, 06:24:11 pm »
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trials ry :spitcoffee:
 :ricky:


Jys net jaloers oor daai trials fietsies sal knak as jy op die ding klim  :pot:

Nou soek jy darem vir open season om oor ander ouens se gestaltes te praat... jy weet, die feit dat die bike se sit net 18" van die grond af is en kort ouens, ens.  8)
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2013, 07:00:14 pm »
Wat gaan aan met die outoppies? Eers wil hulle  begin wheelie en nou dit .Trials ry :spitcoffee:
 :ricky:


Jys net jaloers oor daai trials fietsies sal knak as jy op die ding klim  :pot:

Ek is eintlik nie so dik soos ek lyk nie  :xxbah:

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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2013, 07:25:32 pm »
If I had the spare cash I would buy one of these bikes  tomorrow!

Please keep on sharing your experiences and tips etc, its very interesting.  You are very lucky having a top notch instructor available to learn it all from right from the start!

Most of the top riders enduro riders in the world have a trials back ground - just goes to show that once you learn these skills, you can transfer them to other off road bikes - invaluable IMO :thumleft:
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Re: The Palooka Trials Rider's Thread
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2013, 08:09:17 pm »
During National Service in Oudtshoorn I had a XR200 R Honda, which I used to play around the mountains with. In one paticular spot there was a lot of dongas where I could enjoy excersizing technical skills. It was a matter of learn to stay on top or come  off. I came off a lot. I always head a zing for it and the dream of a proper trials bike and riding started.

After NS we lived on a small holding where I build myself an obstacle track. Some serious stuff. Remember I was young and invinsible. By now the 200 had lost most of its original body parts, as I had gone through my learning curve and I stripped it to bare essentials.

Untill this day it was some of the best fun I ever had on a bike. I hope to have it again now.
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