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"Unstoppable enduro"
« on: August 02, 2013, 08:56:10 am »
"Unstoppable enduro" is the term used by a well-known German motorcycle manufacturer in an add for their huge transcontinental cruisers.

I have deduced that either a. BMW knows so preciously little about actual enduro that they are naively abusing the terminology,
                                         b. BMW are so sure that there customers know so preciously little about real enduro that they will not know better, and can thus be mislead,
                                   
                                         c. BMW is reflecting on their products terrible offroad stopping record.

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 09:04:18 am »
Enduro mode on baby!!!!

tweespoor sand all the way!!!

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 09:11:25 am »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enduro

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 09:20:39 am »
I agree with you 2SD. I have seen it and it's been annoying me for a while now.
 

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 09:24:09 am »
Dan... marketing is the name of the game... you have to realize the world is filled with sheeple that believe anything tossed at them on their HD screens.

Then you have real enduro riders that prefer Yamaha. :sip:
 

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 09:24:50 am »
BMW has no clue about what enduro even means.
They tried their hand at enduro R&D and their G450X failed miserably.

To answer the question; sadly it's a,b and c. In most cases, the riders know as much about "enduro" as the manufacturer.
Bunch of wannabee's

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« Last Edit: August 02, 2013, 09:29:15 am by swart skaap »

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 09:27:49 am »
Dan, I think they got the "unstoppable" right  :imaposer:

try stopping 400kg of bike, rider and full enduro panniers within 200m  :imaposer:

eidt: Forgot to add the weight of the BMW jacket with built in bum flap and 2 way radio system. Make it 500kg  :laughing4:
« Last Edit: August 02, 2013, 09:28:54 am by J-dog »
 

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 09:30:11 am »
 :laughing4:

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 09:33:57 am »
"Unstoppable enduro"
                                   
                                       
 c. BMW is reflecting on their products terrible offroad stopping record.



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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2013, 09:36:13 am »
Unslappable steering.

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2013, 09:38:18 am »
should rather say unstopable offroad. ive not seen any gs' ride wild west  :peepwall:
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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2013, 09:39:33 am »
So what does enduro mean?

Test of endurance maybe?
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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2013, 09:51:07 am »
So what does enduro mean?

Test of endurance maybe?

"en•dur•o (ɛnˈdʊər oʊ, -ˈdyʊər oʊ)

n., pl. -dur•os.
an automobile or motorcycle race designed to test the endurance of the driver and vehicle.
[1930–35; appar. a pseudo-Italian or Sp derivative of endurance]"
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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2013, 09:51:59 am »
Aaah ... the sweet music of brand bashing.  :biggrin:

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2013, 10:05:46 am »
I know what you are trying to say and agree

BUT

Ze German checked wikipedia (Enduro is a form of motorcycle sport run on courses that are predominantly off-road.) and if you use that meaning zen ze german add is not bad.
 

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2013, 10:07:14 am »
"Enduro" has a slightly more differentiated meaning in German:

Originally and generally it refers to a road legal but dirt / off road capable motorcycle.

The XT500 carried the term on its side covers (some year models, German market version, not sure about the rest). Earlier converted road bikes will usually be referred to as "Scrambler". An enduro is factory build dual purpose  bike.


Later variants: Sports or Hard Enduro: Coined by KTM for the LC4 in 1995. Mostly & generally competition bikes with additions to make them road legal.

Allround Enduro: KLR, DR, XT, LC4 Adventure... These are usually referred to as "Enduro" without any addition

Rallye Enduro: Sports Enduros specially adapted for rallye use with large fuel capacity, SatNav, Road Book etc.

"Reiseenduro" best trranslated with Enduro Tourer: Trend kicked off by the R80G/S. Note that G/S stands for Gelände/ Straße and on the later models (without the slash) it stands for Geen Sand, NOT to be mixed up with "GS" which in Germany is used as a term for Enduro Racing (Geländesport - off road sport).
A Reiseenduro will have less off road but more long distance & high speed capabilities and is usually build to carry two people and luggage.
They typically see little if any dirt roads and are primarily a variant of touring motorcycle.


I can only agree to the term "unstoppable":
My R1100GS flies like a butterfly and lands like a Grand Piano. I am sure if you ramp it over a bump it makes a dent in the road surface upon landing.
It's so bloody heavy that you can't stop it from falling over once it has decided to do so.

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2013, 10:11:46 am »
Aaah ... the sweet music of brand bashing.  :biggrin:



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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2013, 10:13:14 am »
What they think enduro means:



..in reality:

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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2013, 10:57:54 am »
The block of flats rides very nicely in the sand thank you. Tweespoor and dunes are no issue. You work a bit harder but it rides well. Even with a pillion.  :thumleft:

I sincerely hope my bike is ready for the BMW club sand day. Would like to pitch up with the wife on the back.  :biggrin:

But where Uncle Dan and GJ plays in the enduro game... The KLR could not even ride there.

To put the Enduro label onto a bike that is slowly but surely morphing into a road bike is a bit ridiculous though. Even KTM cannot use that on the new 1190. Its like all 4x4s as well. It becomes an image thing more than a capability thing.

But if you want to cross Africa and Europe all the way to Siberia and you pick the route well, it would be 95% tarmac. Which would be best. A road orientated bike with an Enduro label or a road legal Enduro?  :peepwall:


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Re: "Unstoppable enduro"
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2013, 11:04:01 am »
Some very agreeable comments so far.