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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2015, 12:06:07 pm »
When I was looking for something to replace my Dakar, I had a close look at the XTZ, even got the point that I sat on it in the show room and started making broom-broom noises  :biggrin:

But that changed very quickly when I saw the spec sheet - it was heavier than my Dakar!  :o

And I had grown to hate that Dakar, for many reasons - the weight being one of them.

So as nice as the  XTZ looked, it was a non starter for me.

People can say what they like, but a heavy bike is a heavy bike.  You cannot get away from that problem - its with you every step of the way in technical terrain.

This is especially an issue if you are a short arse like me, - without long legs you have no way of pushing it back up again when it starts going.  A heavy bike just makes that problem so much worse, and then you have to heave the bloody fat thing back upright - just a complete pain in the arse!

Even the 610 is too heavy in some situations.

So weight is the frst thing I look at from now on.

Ja - the power to weight ratio and spread of the 6 speed box make it the winner IMHO.
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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2015, 12:52:03 pm »
Yes it is very heavy!
I dropped it's weight to be in the same league as the Dakar which is still too heavy for most riders, as you've said.
Short legs are the Achilles heal to riding it in technical areas.

Fortunately, my legs are extremely long and frequenting the gym means my upper body can cope with the extra weight. The extra weight does have its place though; when doing long distance, heavy bikes are just more comfortable, and its wind protection and seat is great.

So in short, if you are tall enough and a little stronger than the average Joe, the XTZ is actually not such a bad choice, if not, you have to be careful not to end up in places where you might break either the bike or yourself.

Good summary and the reason I am also going to lighter bikes.

Getting old and fragile now, so big or heavy bikes are out for me. I have even put my DR on a diet and removed (e.g. rear foot pegs) or replaced (e.g. heavy OEM muffler) a number of parts in order to lighten it up as far as possible. But being a 650 and old tech it is still relatively heavy.

I do not own a TE610, but the SM610 is very light and powerful with proper gear ratios and a joy to ride for those reasons :ricky: 
 

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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2017, 09:45:32 pm »
I was sitting pondering the ideal bike garage again this evening. The 660Z yes it's heavy, tall even more so with a 18 inch rear like mine has, it's not a rocket ship either but I still like it a lot. There is just something comforting about it knowing I can pull it out of the garage and just go ride, no nasty mechanical surprises. Then I thought about a lighter alternative, the 690 is too expensive for me. I really do think the 610 is that 2nd lighter bike one should have. I could ride that thing where 450's went and still be fairly comfortable in any terrain on it. Add longish service intervals and very good gearing for just about any terrain makes it a winner. Down side I had quite a lot of mechanical stuff I had to do on mine but nothing too difficult. The clutch washers and cam chain being the most likely parts to swap. But I always keep coming back to a 610. I owned mine (610) twice and a 660 twice that must mean I have some connection with them.
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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2017, 08:15:54 am »

One day people will wake up to the fact that they missed out on a fantastic bike. Even in SM guise, like mine, it is something special :thumleft:
 

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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2017, 09:50:31 am »
I only hear good things about these bikes......was thinking of a 701 until I saw the R130k price tag.
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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2017, 10:09:24 am »
Could not agree more. Yesterday I wanted to do some jetting for technical stuff with my son on his new 250 2T. I do have a 450 but battery was out so took the 610 into some quite gnarly stuff near us and was once again so impressed how well it performed finding low-down traction on some steep stuff where I am sure my 450 would have wanted to spin up and have been more of a handful. And just the week before I had used it for a good few days to commute the realitevly short 10km to work and back, also loving its versatility. It really is a special bike.  :ricky:
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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2017, 10:50:15 am »
My 610 cost me 35k, the cheapest 690 2nd hand is 55 - 60 ? There is no way it is twice the bike imho. Having said that I have never ridden a 690 and it is a quite bit more modern than a 610.
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Re: I am converted, really dig my 610 !
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2017, 01:43:39 pm »
My 610 cost me 35k, the cheapest 690 2nd hand is 55 - 60 ? There is no way it is twice the bike imho. Having said that I have never ridden a 690 and it is a quite bit more modern than a 610.

It is very different in many ways. Not a fair comparison actually.
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