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Offline Straatkat

Where did my neutral go?
« on: November 01, 2013, 03:31:01 pm »
My 610 does not go into neutral whilst the motor is running. It is problem as it causes me to sit at lights with the (stubby) clutch lever pulled in, which is hell on the hand and cannot be good to the clutch either.
At first I thought it was just that the bike was new and tight, then read on ADV that Motul 300V cures the problem, so I changed to that oil, and now with 9k kms it still refuses to go into neutral, unless you kill the motor. Is there a way to solve the problem?
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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2013, 05:42:04 pm »
My 610 does not go into neutral whilst the motor is running. It is problem as it causes me to sit at lights with the (stubby) clutch lever pulled in, which is hell on the hand and cannot be good to the clutch either.
At first I thought it was just that the bike was new and tight, then read on ADV that Motul 300V cures the problem, so I changed to that oil, and now with 9k kms it still refuses to go into neutral, unless you kill the motor. Is there a way to solve the problem?
Yes go into neutral with the bike before coming to standstill  (takes some practice), the neutral thing seems normal to all 610's. It super kak I know, almost all my other bikes slipped into neutral quite easily.
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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 06:22:27 pm »
is it not a worn clutch basket that grips the fingers?
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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2013, 06:32:41 pm »
Not totally on topic, I know. But my PE175 has 3 neutrals that jump in when you least expect it. I'll swap you a neutral for a non-neutral?

Check to see if the clutch basket has not developed grooves in the fingers. Like busslightyear mentions it will grip the plates.

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Offline Straatkat

Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2013, 09:22:28 pm »
VM, you need all the neutrals you can get. I'll check the clutch basket, but it's been like this since new, I was hoping it would "loosen" and slip in like a BM. For some reason that sounds very suggestive. ;D
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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 08:11:41 am »
Mine does the same thing, it doesnt go into neutral easily when the engine is running.

If you look on Cafe Husky or AdvRider you will see that this is normal for these bikes.

It doesnt bother me I must admit.

Also most of the other bike's I've ridden have been the same - getting into neutral is not that easy while riding.

I rather that, than constantly be hitting neutral by mistake when riding - just my opinion.
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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2013, 09:12:42 pm »
Yes this is pretty normal for these bikes by all reports and experience. Those in the know warn not to over adjust the clutch in an attempt to rectify it. A bit of practice nudging it into neutral while still coasting can work as does the added blipping of throttle or raising of revs while selecting. Becomes second nature.
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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2013, 09:59:36 pm »
Strange thing,  find neutral between 2-3 and 4-5 when wheelying... highly annoying.

Can I give you my neutral?
 

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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2013, 10:06:26 pm »
Strange thing,  find neutral between 2-3 and 4-5 when wheelying... highly annoying.

Can I give you my neutral?

might have something to do with the change in oil level?
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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2013, 10:08:46 pm »
My gearbox is still nice and stiff. Previous owner didnt ride it very hard.
 

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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2013, 10:20:18 pm »
My gearbox is still nice and stiff. Previous owner didnt ride it very hard.

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Offline Straatkat

Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2013, 07:30:27 pm »
My gearbox is still nice and stiff. Previous owner didnt ride it very hard.

Sounds like all that is about to change! :thumleft:
I tried the sneaking it into neutral before coming to a dead stop, was concentrating so hard, ran over 3 pedestrians and ran 2 traffic lights  ;D
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Re: Where did my neutral go?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2013, 08:54:09 pm »
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My gearbox is still nice and stiff. Previous owner didnt ride it very hard.

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