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Bearings on 1200 GS
« on: November 10, 2013, 06:26:42 am »
So, after yesterday's ride I decided to see what the hell was going on with the bike dipping so rapidly from side to side and feeling so "loose" on the road.

Turns out there is a reasonable amount of play on the back wheel when you move it.

Checked to see that the wheel was properly fastened - it seems it was.

So, only thing it can possibly be I suppose is bearings?

Is this a jobbie that should be done by the dealers? Estimate of what I am in for?

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 12:42:58 pm »
No help from the community then? Sies !!!
 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 01:09:25 pm »
No help from the community then? Sies !!!

Don't know the 1200 that well, normally on an 1150 I would be checking the paralever bearings :sip:
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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 01:11:53 pm »
No help from the community then? Sies !!!

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 01:11:59 pm »
In there anything as a layman that I can try before taking it to the dealers?
 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 01:19:12 pm »
In there anything as a layman that I can try before taking it to the dealers?

If you have to ask, probably not  ;D
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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2013, 01:20:28 pm »
In there anything as a layman that I can try before taking it to the dealers?

If you have to ask, probably not  ;D

Good answer. Dealers it will be then I suppose. Shit !!!
 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2013, 01:39:58 pm »
Get a helper to apply the rear brake, if the play is still there its not the wheel bearing/final drive, but the swingarm or the final drive pivot bearing.
 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2013, 01:50:57 pm »
I know Eisbein had his bearing replaced at about 100k km should be a thread somewhere.
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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2013, 02:24:24 pm »
Ok. My assistant had his foot on the brake. There is still the same amount if play on the wheel.

This where the play is:

 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2013, 02:34:58 pm »
a lil clean would go along way  :D


seriously  , are you asking about "play" on rotational direction , or from side to side ??
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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2013, 02:36:04 pm »
In there anything as a layman that I can try before taking it to the dealers?

Sorry.  Can't help. Try calling Acme. I have heard (not confirmed)  that the dude who was hot on Beemer's at Alpina may be working on Beemer's from their premises.
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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 02:41:13 pm »
a lil clean would go along way  :D


seriously  , are you asking about "play" on rotational direction , or from side to side ??

Still dirty after all the dirt of yesterday. Man, we rode where no 4x4 can't ever dream of going. Or, at least, that is how awesome it was for me.

Anyway, the play is from side to side, easily about 4 centimetres.
 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2013, 02:44:34 pm »
a lil clean would go along way  :D


seriously  , are you asking about "play" on rotational direction , or from side to side ??

Still dirty after all the dirt of yesterday. Man, we rode where no 4x4 can't ever dream of going. Or, at least, that is how awesome it was for me.

Anyway, the play is from side to side, easily about 4 centimetres.

ahhh  keep it dirty  .........  i like a wee bit of dirt 

fokkit   4 cm's  side to side ???????????  thats a hell of a lot  ,  i would think something is seriously fookked  , is it only the wheel that moves , or the side shaft ?

from a radial direction  4 cm is very acceptable , as in  when in 1st gear
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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2013, 02:52:37 pm »
Seems it is only the wheel that is moving. Right at that pivot point in the photo where a torx would fit.
 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2013, 02:52:49 pm »
If that is where the play is its not a big problem and you should be able to repair that yourself with a few new parts. Don't know what it is called, but I call it the final drive pivot bearing.
 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2013, 02:58:17 pm »
If that is where the play is its not a big problem and you should be able to repair that yourself with a few new parts. Don't know what it is called, but I call it the final drive pivot bearing.

That there is exactly where the problem is I think. It is so bad, the bike feels completely out of control when shifting gears. Handling is up to shit.

Even seems like the problem got worse when the fuel was almost empty. Don't know if the weight reduction played any part? Maybe the stage of getting much worse after the day's riding just coincided with the fuel running low.

We did some bad offroading with big boulders at one stage. That might also have made the problem worse.

I had this problem right from the start after buying the bike, but thought it was because the GS was so much lighter than the GSA, or maybe the new Mitas tyres. Even posted about it here.

Only yesterday decided to check the play, and yup, there is was.
 

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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2013, 03:26:32 pm »
Get a helper to apply the rear brake, if the play is still there its not the wheel bearing/final drive, but the swingarm or the final drive pivot bearing.

Yes, but it wont help, if the dealer says you need a new FD I sugest try Donovan :sip:
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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2013, 03:30:07 pm »
If that is where the play is its not a big problem and you should be able to repair that yourself with a few new parts. Don't know what it is called, but I call it the final drive pivot bearing.

That there is exactly where the problem is I think. It is so bad, the bike feels completely out of control when shifting gears. Handling is up to shit.

Even seems like the problem got worse when the fuel was almost empty. Don't know if the weight reduction played any part? Maybe the stage of getting much worse after the day's riding just coincided with the fuel running low.

We did some bad offroading with big boulders at one stage. That might also have made the problem worse.

I had this problem right from the start after buying the bike, but thought it was because the GS was so much lighter than the GSA, or maybe the new Mitas tyres. Even posted about it here.

Only yesterday decided to check the play, and yup, there is was.

OK ignore last post, it was hanging in the system, paralever bearing probably toast, dont know 1200 system but assume it has taken a hiding due to being loose probably needs replacing not adjustment 8)
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Re: Bearings on 1200 GS
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2013, 05:02:45 pm »
Any idea of cost as far as paralever bearing is concerned?