E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013

[volroom]

I'll be majorly surprised if they manage to get all the bills to all the road users. Pretty sure that's not going to happen! And I expect number plate theft and fake plates to be a huge issue.

Me too... fake number plates, or stolen. We're supposed to pop-rivet them on now, think that's gonna stop them stealing it? I would imagine that one big jank on it will see it come off

Why would they need to steal when they can ust go make one with your reg on it???

The need the papers of the vehicle to make number plate. Unless it's made illegally.

[Tr0jan]

I'm starting the WDTA. All of you are invited join my new Taxi Association. We'll have a stupid sticker and our own funky hooter sound.

White walls on my "taxi" is where I draw the line, but im in! Does this mean we can use the yellow line now?

[Bundu]

We are going to see some interesting high profile court cases in Jan/Feb next year

[Mikie]

I'll be majorly surprised if they manage to get all the bills to all the road users. Pretty sure that's not going to happen! And I expect number plate theft and fake plates to be a huge issue.

Me too... fake number plates, or stolen. We're supposed to pop-rivet them on now, think that's gonna stop them stealing it? I would imagine that one big jank on it will see it come off

Why would they need to steal when they can ust go make one with your reg on it???

The need the papers of the vehicle to make number plate. Unless it's made illegally.

Its not that hard to find someone to make you one. I doubt the maker could be traced either

[Bundu]

I'll be majorly surprised if they manage to get all the bills to all the road users. Pretty sure that's not going to happen! And I expect number plate theft and fake plates to be a huge issue.

Me too... fake number plates, or stolen. We're supposed to pop-rivet them on now, think that's gonna stop them stealing it? I would imagine that one big jank on it will see it come off

Why would they need to steal when they can ust go make one with your reg on it???

The need the papers of the vehicle to make number plate. Unless it's made illegally.

it is estimated that between 5-10% of plates in Gauteng are duplicates - so there must be a way to make plates quite easily already

[Mikie]

I'll be majorly surprised if they manage to get all the bills to all the road users. Pretty sure that's not going to happen! And I expect number plate theft and fake plates to be a huge issue.

Me too... fake number plates, or stolen. We're supposed to pop-rivet them on now, think that's gonna stop them stealing it? I would imagine that one big jank on it will see it come off

Why would they need to steal when they can ust go make one with your reg on it???

The need the papers of the vehicle to make number plate. Unless it's made illegally.

it is estimated that between 5-10% of plates in Gauteng are duplicates - so there must be a way to make plates quite easily already

[Mikie]

Ok I dont really but he cant be that hard to find

[MegaPix]

So we sell a Freight Carrier with a Van Body on and wait up to 3 months in Limpopo to get the weight sorted and the MIB registered for the correct weight registration to take place.
In the meantime the owner of the truck drives with a permit.  The permit holder is us as the dealer.
Now how the hell are they going to do now? Send me the stuff and I must sort it out with the owner of the truck?

SE MOER

[Mikie]

So we sell a Freight Carrier with a Van Body on and wait up to 3 months in Limpopo to get the weight sorted and the MIB registered for the correct weight registration to take place.
In the meantime the owner of the truck drives with a permit.  The permit holder is us as the dealer.
Now how the hell are they going to do now? Send me the stuff and I must sort it out with the owner of the truck?

SE MOER

Youre a law abiding citizen, you will 

[volroom]

I'll be majorly surprised if they manage to get all the bills to all the road users. Pretty sure that's not going to happen! And I expect number plate theft and fake plates to be a huge issue.

Me too... fake number plates, or stolen. We're supposed to pop-rivet them on now, think that's gonna stop them stealing it? I would imagine that one big jank on it will see it come off

Why would they need to steal when they can ust go make one with your reg on it???

The need the papers of the vehicle to make number plate. Unless it's made illegally.

Its not that hard to find someone to make you one. I doubt the maker could be traced either

Places were I've made np's before were adamant; they wanted ID, vehicle papers. But, I'm sure there will be some guys that do it illegally for a fee

[Mikie]

I'll be majorly surprised if they manage to get all the bills to all the road users. Pretty sure that's not going to happen! And I expect number plate theft and fake plates to be a huge issue.

Me too... fake number plates, or stolen. We're supposed to pop-rivet them on now, think that's gonna stop them stealing it? I would imagine that one big jank on it will see it come off

Why would they need to steal when they can ust go make one with your reg on it???

The need the papers of the vehicle to make number plate. Unless it's made illegally.

Its not that hard to find someone to make you one. I doubt the maker could be traced either

Places were I've made np's before were adamant; they wanted ID, vehicle papers. But, I'm sure there will be some guys that do it illegally for a fee

Absolutely, they dont know you, you could work for the Govt or Carte Blanche for all they know, but if you looking for it you will find it guaranteed

When i did my last number plate I enquired about smaller ones etc, and they said nope its illegal, we arent allowed to do those, but there loads on bikes out there, someone does it

[Grrrr....]

For those thinking of buying E-tags.... Remember, remember....

[Groenie]

Exactly who will be exempt from e-toll?

[badballie]

You never ask for a small numberplate, you ask for a "bar sign" - it is illegal to make smaller numberplates, but you can make any barsign you want  

[Mikie]

You never ask for a small numberplate, you ask for a "bar sign" - it is illegal to make smaller numberplates, but you can make any barsign you want  

A bar sign with someone elses reg on it 

[Bundu]

Exactly who will be exempt from e-toll?

cops, army and most public transport are exempt

[RobC]

Exactly who will be exempt from e-toll?

cops, army and most public transport are exempt

How is that going to work though?

[Groenie]

I see that exemption is not granted by default, you have to apply for it - after you've bought your e-tag

[Swart Gevaar]

So if I test a vehicle and I am on garage plates, how the fark will they trace me? Considering that it is an armored vehicle and the plate is not really visible... I am going to have a field day... 

[Bundu]

Exactly who will be exempt from e-toll?

cops, army and most public transport are exempt

How is that going to work though?

AFAIK these groups will get an e-tag, but will get 100% discount on their rates