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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2013, 01:43:03 pm »
"We have learnt many lessons from this project, one of them being that it will take some time to reverse the legacy of colonialism and apartheid planning," said Peters.

Yep they are reversing that planning at a blistering rate, at least in this instance they are achieving their goals  :pot:


Returning roads elsewhere in the country back to dirt roads or non-existent roads as it was before the bloody colonials

the statements these cnuts make, the more harde-gat I will be
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2013, 01:47:16 pm »
I agree with 100%.Maybe we should start acting like they used to and make the system ungovernable...  :pot:
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2013, 01:52:36 pm »
I agree with 100%.Maybe we should start acting like they used to and make the system ungovernable...  :pot:

The beauty of passive resistance is that you do not have to do anything to make the system ungovernable. Just do not get a tag, do not react to the love letters and do not pay
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2013, 02:02:36 pm »
One of our favourite pastimes in school many years ago, before I became all responsible and all and all, was to ride on your bike and see who can take out the most neon advertising boards in one lap of the street.

We used stones and ketties, but a decent shotgun should make easy on those cameras, or not? Just wondering...
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2013, 02:10:10 pm »
Guys... just be careful on making threats of damaging public property on line. :deal:
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2013, 02:12:28 pm »
Oranje-blanje-blou...  :imaposer:

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2013, 02:29:33 pm »
if you don't pay your toll account you wont be able to renew your vehicle or drivers licence
Allways carry a map its not good to get lost and have to eat your friends
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2013, 02:33:58 pm »
if you don't pay your toll account you wont be able to renew your vehicle or drivers licence

link?
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2013, 02:35:48 pm »
lady at the Krugersdorp licence dept
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2013, 02:39:38 pm »
lady at the Krugersdorp licence dept

So what you're saying is that I not only don't have to buy a tag, but I get to skip the renewal fees too? Man this is sounding better by the minute!!  >:D >:D
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2013, 02:41:12 pm »
if you don't pay your toll account you wont be able to renew your vehicle or drivers licence
I dont see how these two are related. This would raise some serious law suits.
Restricting my ability to earn an income...
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2013, 02:41:30 pm »
the faulty AARTO system is not linked to SANRAL, as far as i know.... would also like to know if they can legally withhold your vehicle license.  i can see that being challenged in court as they would be depriving you of your legal means of transport you use to earn a living. they could argue you could use public transport... but what public transport??
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2013, 02:44:17 pm »
I will dispute any bill they send me. Send me a picture, clearly showing my number plate and the alleged time of toll road use for each transaction on your list. If you can't, I won't pay.

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2013, 02:46:09 pm »
look, it might be possible that they will try that, but surely they can't refuse a licence when you are in a dispute with Sanral.

On the other hand, if the numbers are big enough, are they going to refuse a large % of the population licences?
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2013, 02:49:31 pm »
I will dispute any bill they send me. Send me a picture, clearly showing my number plate and the alleged time of toll road use for each transaction on your list. If you can't, I won't pay.



that's the idea  :thumleft:

Can you imagine the administrative nightmare if enough people do that?
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2013, 02:52:06 pm »
if you don't pay your toll account you wont be able to renew your vehicle or drivers licence
I dont see how these two are related. This would raise some serious law suits.
Restricting my ability to earn an income...

and restricting your right of freedom of movement... hier kom 'n ConCourt fight een of ander tyd.
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2013, 02:58:48 pm »
I am so glad I moved out of there many years ago.. This is going to be very entertaining for us.. watching
Gloat while you can we all live in the same country and these E-tolls will impact on us all.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2013, 03:00:31 pm »
I am so glad I moved out of there many years ago.. This is going to be very entertaining for us.. watching
Gloat while you can we all live in the same country and these E-tolls will impact on us all.

I thought the Western Cape was a country on their own???  :patch:
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2013, 03:00:43 pm »
E-tolling won't be too successful in the Northern Cape though...

The guys will Hilux a new road around the gates...

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2013, 03:16:07 pm »
I am so glad I moved out of there many years ago.. This is going to be very entertaining for us.. watching
Gloat while you can we all live in the same country and these E-tolls will impact on us all.

I thought the Western Cape was a country on their own???  :patch:
They have been trying for many years already to get it right. I think if you guys get it unmanageable up in Gauteng they will have to have a long hard look at it moving forward. With that said it will still take many years for that to happen in Slaap Stad.
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