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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2013, 01:24:41 pm »
All you ALTERNATE road users, as defined by SANRAL - have a look at the below....

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/92077-final-e-toll-prices-revealed.html

(P.S - alternate is described as unregistered and without an e-tag - like me.)

I've seen that - It's called bullying - I'm paying nothing and am prepared to go to court, where I will have the support of OUTA and many others
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2013, 01:52:07 pm »
WTF??

Whats a Standard Tarrif?
Registered user - has E-tag
Whats an Alternate user??

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2013, 01:55:17 pm »
All you ALTERNATE road users, as defined by SANRAL - have a look at the below....

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/92077-final-e-toll-prices-revealed.html

(P.S - alternate is described as unregistered and without an e-tag - like me.)
Or anyone from outside Gauteng for that matter. Blatant discrimination!
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2013, 01:57:55 pm »
All you ALTERNATE road users, as defined by SANRAL - have a look at the below....

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/92077-final-e-toll-prices-revealed.html

(P.S - alternate is described as unregistered and without an e-tag - like me.)
Or anyone from outside Gauteng for that matter. Blatant discrimination!

More like daylight robbery
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2013, 02:28:09 pm »
All you ALTERNATE road users, as defined by SANRAL - have a look at the below....

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/92077-final-e-toll-prices-revealed.html

(P.S - alternate is described as unregistered and without an e-tag - like me.)
Or anyone from outside Gauteng for that matter. Blatant discrimination!

More like daylight robbery

Fark that is expensive!!

But I call bluffing maybe??  Have a look at this site http://tollcalc.sanral.co.za/etoll/ , you can calculate you e-toll fees. They don't have an option there for "alternate user"

If this is true, and I don't want to be a doom prophet, but I can't see how many people will resist getting an e-tag for too long.

BUT, I will not fall for their scare tactics!!! :dousing:
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #85 on: November 21, 2013, 02:29:37 pm »
All you ALTERNATE road users, as defined by SANRAL - have a look at the below....

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/92077-final-e-toll-prices-revealed.html

(P.S - alternate is described as unregistered and without an e-tag - like me.)
Or anyone from outside Gauteng for that matter. Blatant discrimination!

There goes Gauteng tourism... ::)
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #86 on: November 21, 2013, 02:30:33 pm »
All you ALTERNATE road users, as defined by SANRAL - have a look at the below....

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/92077-final-e-toll-prices-revealed.html

(P.S - alternate is described as unregistered and without an e-tag - like me.)
Or anyone from outside Gauteng for that matter. Blatant discrimination!

There goes Gauteng tourism... ::)
Apparently if youre not from here you can buy a day pass
« Last Edit: November 21, 2013, 02:31:01 pm by Mikie »
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #87 on: November 21, 2013, 02:39:05 pm »
All you ALTERNATE road users, as defined by SANRAL - have a look at the below....

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/92077-final-e-toll-prices-revealed.html

(P.S - alternate is described as unregistered and without an e-tag - like me.)
Or anyone from outside Gauteng for that matter. Blatant discrimination!
Knew I should have kept my bakkie registered in Mpumalanga. I wonder how many day passes one can get in a month?  :biggrin:

There goes Gauteng tourism... ::)
Apparently if youre not from here you can buy a day pass
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #88 on: November 21, 2013, 03:28:51 pm »
I WILL NOT PAY E-TOLLS!



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/i5bFZezmmEw" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/i5bFZezmmEw</a>

Share this on fb, and make it go viral. I watched it and saw only 2 people viewed this, so this is very new on youtube. Thanks for sharing Bundu!  :thumleft:
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #89 on: November 21, 2013, 03:36:58 pm »
This has done the rounds on FB, maybe someone just posted it again under the tube a/c?
Cash, Gas or Ass............ no-one rides for free :-)

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #90 on: November 21, 2013, 03:44:21 pm »
This has done the rounds on FB, maybe someone just posted it again under the tube a/c?

yes, but it was only released today and can be confused with the one that was launched some time ago - this is the 1st official video where OUTA says "don't PAY e-tolls"
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #91 on: November 21, 2013, 03:57:02 pm »
Ah I see it is a new one - then better get the word out - just saw the sketching and thought it was the previous one
Cash, Gas or Ass............ no-one rides for free :-)

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #92 on: November 21, 2013, 04:03:23 pm »
Makes my blood boil!

Its going to be real test of our democracy.  Will we buckle and just let the government comfortably rape us?  Or will we stand firm?

If we stand together there is nothing they can do - they cant force people to pay when they all wont.  If we let them divide and conquer then, this will just be then first of many such schemes.  

I really hope we can find it in ourselves to stand together and not just scatter - taking the path of least resistance.

They are doing exactly what I thought they would do, just using the price to make people think twice about resisting - its so simple!

But the cost to the economy is just bloody crippling!  

Just do this little excercise - add up all the money you pay extra on a monthly basis due to the poor government we are blessed with - private security, private school fees, medical aid, electricity, muncipal rate increases without matching services etc etc.  Now multiply that by 12.  That's how much poorer you are per annum ALREADY than you should be.  Disposable income is what makes the economy grow, putting money in everyone's pockets which can be invested and spent on other stuff other than just the basics - which is the source of growth and national wealth.  But by voraciously consuming the disposable income of its citizens, the government kills growth and makes everyone poorer - eventually there just isn't any spare money left, they have consumed it all - and we end up another poor developing country relying on international aid to even do the bloody basics, with a few mega rich politicians living the life of rock stars.  That's what this scheme represents to me!

IT HAS TO STOP.  The question is will we have the balls to stop it now, while we have a good reason to and people are all focused on it, or are we going to let the opportunity slip by?

Our country will be better off if we do.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #93 on: November 21, 2013, 04:06:16 pm »
There will be blood..... :thumleft:
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #94 on: November 21, 2013, 04:10:01 pm »
There will be blood..... :thumleft:

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #95 on: November 21, 2013, 04:14:43 pm »
All you ALTERNATE road users, as defined by SANRAL - have a look at the below....

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/92077-final-e-toll-prices-revealed.html

(P.S - alternate is described as unregistered and without an e-tag - like me.)
Or anyone from outside Gauteng for that matter. Blatant discrimination!

There goes Gauteng tourism... ::)
Apparently if youre not from here you can buy a day pass
Why should I have to bother with that? >:(
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #96 on: November 21, 2013, 04:15:26 pm »
The problem is how do we get this message to the masses. That's where efforts should be focused. If we stand together, no one can stop us.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #97 on: November 21, 2013, 04:16:39 pm »
what amazes me, is the unwillingness of the ANC to negotiate around the funding model for the GFIP - they would have been so much better off in the public eye, if they considered a fuel levy - this is also so close to the next elections, that I'm 100% sure that there are high up politicians involved in corruption with the collection companies
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #98 on: November 21, 2013, 04:18:29 pm »
what amazes me, is the unwillingness of the ANC to negotiate around the funding model for the GFIP - they would have been so much better off in the public eye, if they considered a fuel levy - this is also so close to the next elections, that I'm 100% sure that there are high up politicians involved in corruption with the collection companies
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #99 on: November 21, 2013, 04:20:28 pm »
The problem is how do we get this message to the masses. That's where efforts should be focused. If we stand together, no one can stop us.

time for all the people to swallow their pride and ask all the unions,youth groups,opposition party's,religious leaders to make a mass stand against the violation and corruption.
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