E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013

[Laban]

The problem is how do we get this message to the masses. That's where efforts should be focused. If we stand together, no one can stop us.

time for all the people to swallow their pride and ask all the unions,youth groups,opposition party's,religious leaders to make a mass stand against the violation and corruption.

now were's tutu when we need him...?

[badballie]

what amazes me, is the unwillingness of the ANC to negotiate around the funding model for the GFIP - they would have been so much better off in the public eye, if they considered a fuel levy - this is also so close to the next elections, that I'm 100% sure that there are high up politicians involved in corruption with the collection companies

1)  - they have unilaterally decided on this and will show us who is boss
2)  - they are liable to Kapisch regardless off whether it goes ahead or not
3)  - their kickbacks are dependent on it going ahead
4)  - their pensions is tied up in the scheme.

They will not scrap this without a fight

[volroom]

what amazes me, is the unwillingness of the ANC to negotiate around the funding model for the GFIP - they would have been so much better off in the public eye, if they considered a fuel levy - this is also so close to the next elections, that I'm 100% sure that there are high up politicians involved in corruption with the collection companies

I also thought about that... I could not understand why they would enact etolling system soon before elections..does not make sense. unless, like you say, there are some vested interests from certain individuals. Imagine this to be true, and it was exposed.  

[KiLRoy]

The problem is how do we get this message to the masses. That's where efforts should be focused. If we stand together, no one can stop us.

time for all the people to swallow their pride and ask all the unions,youth groups,opposition party's,religious leaders to make a mass stand against the violation and corruption.

Lets call it the United Democratic Front...... A first time for everything.

[wiledog_X]

notice the huge disparity between e-tag and non e-tag. It's clear that they are so desperate to have you on the system because the administration involved in billing each
separate non e-tag user is enormous. If non-compliance is higher than something like 40% this flawed system falls flat.

[Bundu]

I just discovered today (on the new Tshwane e-billing website) that I got a fine on 17Sep13 on N1 NORTH, BROMHOF, RANDBURG with my bike......

Fuckal in the post....

Let's see if they can deliver MILLIONS of accounts for e-tolling with our postal service... 

[DRAZIL]

what amazes me, is the unwillingness of the ANC to negotiate around the funding model for the GFIP - they would have been so much better off in the public eye, if they considered a fuel levy - this is also so close to the next elections, that I'm 100% sure that there are high up politicians involved in corruption with the collection companies

1)  - they have unilaterally decided on this and will show us who is boss
2)  - they are liable to Kapisch regardless off whether it goes ahead or not
3)  - their kickbacks are dependent on it going ahead
4)  - their pensions is tied up in the scheme.

They will not scrap this without a fight

they already have their pension funds and secondary retirement houses next to Mugabe's in Switzerland.

[punisher]

am i right in saying , that , with this latest release of the tolling prices , that our illustrious SANRAL and government , has lied to not only us , but also the constitutional court

i am sure the new figures are different to the ones that were posted last time , and therefore inaccurate "facts " were submitted to the public and courts previously

this is LYING , which as far as i know is a crime  ...... FRAUD


so  i am sure our public protector will be submitting an urgent request to our courts to halt any further sanral fraud


buttttt  i  might be wrong 

[SmartyPants]

Is there any E-tags for the taxis ? How are they going to know when are you a taxi and when private ? If there are, I AM A TAXI, want to apply !!!

I MEAN, TO GET E TAG IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !!!!  

[Bundu]

Guys, please go vote here: The purpose is to show the doubters, that many won't get tags and will still use our roads

http://www.timeslive.co.za/#poll

[Bundu]

Is there any E-tags for the taxis ? How are they going to know when are you a taxi and when private ? If there are, I AM A TAXI, want to apply !!!

I MEAN, TO GET E TAG IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !!!!  

taxi's and other vehicles that will travel toll-free (user pays principle WTF!!) will have to get an e-tag and register the tag as toll-free

[Bundu]

am i right in saying , that , with this latest release of the tolling prices , that our illustrious SANRAL and government , has lied to not only us , but also the constitutional court

i am sure the new figures are different to the ones that were posted last time , and therefore inaccurate "facts " were submitted to the public and courts previously

this is LYING , which as far as i know is a crime  ...... FRAUD


so  i am sure our public protector will be submitting an urgent request to our courts to halt any further sanral fraud


buttttt  i  might be wrong 

who gives a shit about little white lies in court when your president is a criminal?

[punisher]

am i right in saying , that , with this latest release of the tolling prices , that our illustrious SANRAL and government , has lied to not only us , but also the constitutional court

i am sure the new figures are different to the ones that were posted last time , and therefore <a class="ktg6us78hf8vdu7" href="javascript:void(0)">inaccurate[/url] "facts " were submitted to the public and courts previously

this is LYING , which as far as i know is a crime  ...... FRAUD


so  i am sure our public protector will be submitting an urgent request to our courts to halt any further sanral <a class="ktg6us78hf8vdu7" href="javascript:void(0)">fraud[/url]


buttttt  i  might be wrong 

who gives a shit about little white lies in court when your president is a criminal?

i hear you ....... but , if what i said is correct , and if our judiciary has any shred of credibility left , then there is surely going to be a huge court case now ........... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[dookie]

Is there any E-tags for the taxis ? How are they going to know when are you a taxi and when private ? If there are, I AM A TAXI, want to apply !!!

I MEAN, TO GET E TAG IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !!!!  

Mefinks I just found my solution.

I gonna clone a taxi's plates, steal one of Punisher's blow up dolls for pillion purposes, and thus have a KTM Taxi.

[punisher]

Is there any E-tags for the taxis ? How are they going to know when are you a taxi and when private ? If there are, I AM A TAXI, want to apply !!!

I MEAN, TO GET E TAG IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !!!!  

Mefinks I just found my solution.

I gonna clone a taxi's plates, steal one of Punisher's blow up dolls for pillion purposes, and thus have a KTM Taxi.

 my dolls have taste .........  they wont bee seen .... inflated on a KTM ,  you gonna have to get a beemer first 

[KiLRoy]

The arrogant power hungry imbeciles.....

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/DA-e-toll-billboards-destructive-ANC-20131121

What did they think.....  Jeez, the arrogance....

Next year's election is going to be a shock for the leeches.

[BlueBull2007]

The arrogant power hungry imbeciles.....

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/DA-e-toll-billboards-destructive-ANC-20131121

What did they think.....  Jeez, the arrogance....

Next year's election is going to be a shock for the leeches.

What do you think the masses have to say about this KR? I m not in-country but am very curious about it.

I wonder what will happen to the state worka's pensions when they become due and are not there....thats quite a headache for the DA if they should win dont you think? Or am I getting ahead of myself.

[Bundu]

AFAIK the state pension fund put in around R16B and I would imagine that is not such a significant part of their total - The govt will have to stand in for that money, if e-tolls collapse - they can recover that money through a fuel levy

We can't keep throwing good money after bad forever and ever, just because this was a kak idea - we need to cancel the contract with those scheming Austrians and fund our shit the right way - it will mean that a couple of thousand jobs that were running this inefficient farce will be lost, but they were never supposed to be created in any case


If govt stops stealing and wasting tax payers money for only one year, we can pay the GFIP off in one shot

[KiLRoy]

The arrogant power hungry imbeciles.....

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/DA-e-toll-billboards-destructive-ANC-20131121

What did they think.....  Jeez, the arrogance....

Next year's election is going to be a shock for the leeches.

What do you think the masses have to say about this KR? I m not in-country but am very curious about it.

I wonder what will happen to the state worka's pensions when they become due and are not there....thats quite a headache for the DA if they should win dont you think? Or am I getting ahead of myself.

On the online forums a lot of black okes who traditionally supported the anc are fedup and ready to vote for someone else.  But, as i mentioned before, they are not prepared to vote for the DA which is viewed as a white man's party. EFF may get some votes from these quarters, but i seriously think the time is right for a fresh new moderate party without any baggage. Moderate ex-anc supporters dont have a feasible alternative at the moment, which is a pity.

[n0b0dy]

hahahahah what a croc of shit... even IF this does roll out in The north... There is NO way it will ever swing in EC.