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« Reply #860 on: December 05, 2013, 05:08:49 pm »
indeed. its a culture that must change. or a mindset. cant go backwards for accountability but can use it going forwards. one or two examples and word will get round. wonder why there isn't more whistle blowing? fear? ? ignorance? maybe cronyism?  not all are crocked in my opinion
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #861 on: December 05, 2013, 05:14:51 pm »
But you can't simply eject the worst offenders. It costs money to find out who the worst offenders are. Then it costs money in legal fees to do the ejecting. This brings me back to my original point. It might not be economical.

not sure I'm following you...... surely we can't argue that it's too expensive to root out corruption, so we'll have to accept it?
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #862 on: December 05, 2013, 05:29:43 pm »
But you can't simply eject the worst offenders. It costs money to find out who the worst offenders are. Then it costs money in legal fees to do the ejecting. This brings me back to my original point. It might not be economical.

It would be money well spent, because the wastage will stop (or some of it, anyway).
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #863 on: December 06, 2013, 09:40:06 am »
Of course we need to root out corruption. My point was simply that it might not be an economical way of paying for our road maintenance.
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #864 on: December 12, 2013, 02:57:36 pm »
Their are still lies being put forward by Scumral - 900 000 e-tags sold.
But a census by OUTA shows only 14% are using them on tolled highways.
Plus a survey shows:


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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #865 on: December 13, 2013, 07:14:49 am »
Their are still lies being put forward by Scumral - 900 000 e-tags sold.
But a census by OUTA shows only 14% are using them on tolled highways.
Plus a survey shows:




that doesnt mean its lies, the majority of those tag holders might not be regular toll road users or might not even bother voting, remember a large sum of that 900000 will be Car rental companies, fleet owners and govt vehicles, that itself should count for 80% of that sum I would say
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #866 on: December 13, 2013, 07:18:14 am »
Agree with Mikie - also if you are a Bakwena e-tag user, you are automatically registered. They might be adding these to the figures as well.

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #867 on: December 13, 2013, 08:06:00 am »
Agree with Mikie - also if you are a Bakwena e-tag user, you are automatically registered. They might be adding these to the figures as well.



VM that is correct they have taken over Bakwena's account & they do not issue e-tags anymore you have to go to e-tollie.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #868 on: December 13, 2013, 11:46:44 am »
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.........., remember a large sum of that 900000 will be Car rental companies, fleet owners and govt vehicles, that itself should count for 80% of that sum I would say

rentals are apparently only 50000 vehicles

have not seem a metro or SAPS vehicle with an e-tag yet
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #869 on: December 13, 2013, 12:52:59 pm »
I don't know about SAP or other official vehicles other than ER24 (although contracted to SANRAL and wraped in their sticker kits) but we as emergency medical services are all tagged. Each and every vehicle.

I went inside to enquire about the users or number of private users (no companies, fleet etc) and according to the system over 1 million private users and more than 25persent got more than 1 vehicle tagged and registered. People are still standing quee at the malls and publick service stations to get taggs.

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #870 on: December 13, 2013, 01:04:19 pm »
My wife had to pick somebody up at the airport. She wanted to take back roads.  I said NO!!! ride the road and let us see what happens.
So far nothing in the post and this morning I received this e-mail.  Did a check and NOTHING for this registration number.

If you want to check your e-toll balance without registering, here is a sneaky way to do it.
 
1)      Click on the below link. It will redirect you to the SANRAL log in screen.
2)      Copy and paste the below link into the same browser where the web address is, it will take you to a different search screen which does not require a login.
3)      In the Vehicle License Plate Number field, you enter your carís registration number, and it will display the amount owing, and you donít actually need to register on the siteÖ
 
https://www.sanral.co.za/e-toll/portal/PayTollFeesUnregisteredUsers.aspx
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #871 on: December 13, 2013, 01:08:29 pm »
My wife had to pick somebody up at the airport. She wanted to take back roads.  I said NO!!! ride the road and let us see what happens.
So far nothing in the post and this morning I received this e-mail.  Did a check and NOTHING for this registration number.

If you want to check your e-toll balance without registering, here is a sneaky way to do it.
 
1)      Click on the below link. It will redirect you to the SANRAL log in screen.
2)      Copy and paste the below link into the same browser where the web address is, it will take you to a different search screen which does not require a login.
3)      In the Vehicle License Plate Number field, you enter your carís registration number, and it will display the amount owing, and you donít actually need to register on the siteÖ
 
 
https://www.sanral.co.za/e-toll/portal/PayTollFeesUnregisteredUsers.aspx
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car registration outstanding ??????????????
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It only goes to the customer login page now. seems they have removed the unregistered user page now.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #872 on: December 13, 2013, 01:15:37 pm »
Sheeeeet.. I see that now as wel.  Well it worked this morning when I looked.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #873 on: December 17, 2013, 08:55:31 am »
I'm in two minds about them closing this login loop-hole.  On the one side I'm happy that I can't see my charges without creating an account and logging in.  That means that they HAVE to send me a bill via registered mail before I know how much I "owe them".  But on the other hand some more idiots are now going to register on the site just to see how much they owe.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #874 on: December 17, 2013, 09:07:54 am »
I'm in two minds about them closing this login loop-hole.  On the one side I'm happy that I can't see my charges without creating an account and logging in.  That means that they HAVE to send me a bill via registered mail before I know how much I "owe them".  But on the other hand some more idiots are now going to register on the site just to see how much they owe.

Due to a bit of an administrative oversight on my part (using a vehicle not registered in my name), I've had to register to be able to pay those fees ... *obviously* none of my own vehicles are registered ...

It's been a total clusterfuck - can't log in, can't get statements, haven't received anything in the mail, call center is a mess.  I can't see that they will be able to recover any tolls from people that don't have a prepaid e-tag.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #875 on: December 17, 2013, 09:48:08 am »
I'm in two minds about them closing this login loop-hole.  On the one side I'm happy that I can't see my charges without creating an account and logging in.  That means that they HAVE to send me a bill via registered mail before I know how much I "owe them".  But on the other hand some more idiots are now going to register on the site just to see how much they owe.

Due to a bit of an administrative oversight on my part (using a vehicle not registered in my name), I've had to register to be able to pay those fees ... *obviously* none of my own vehicles are registered ...

It's been a total clusterfuck - can't log in, can't get statements, haven't received anything in the mail, call center is a mess.  I can't see that they will be able to recover any tolls from people that don't have a prepaid e-tag.

That makes me happy.  All the other idiots with tags can pay, and the rest of us will just go on with life as usual.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #876 on: December 17, 2013, 09:49:38 am »
here ive gotten some traction on my anti-etol movement. hope im not the first guy to get chucked in jail.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #877 on: December 17, 2013, 10:23:47 am »
here ive gotten some traction on my anti-etol movement. hope im not the first guy to get chucked in jail.

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I've seen a couple of these around in the past week  :lol8:
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #878 on: December 18, 2013, 06:55:32 pm »
here's mine 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
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