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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #880 on: December 18, 2013, 07:00:36 pm »
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #881 on: December 18, 2013, 07:03:09 pm »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is this an interesting development or not ?


http://mg.co.za/article/2013-12-18-motorists-could-get-e-toll-refunds-due-to-discrepancies

I had a nice chuckle at that farkup  :lol8:


After the sign-language interpreter at the funeral, this would be the ANC's biggest and best f-up for the year!!!  :lol8:

They dont need group action or a rebellious public................they "f" it up without any assistance all on their own   :snorting:
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #882 on: December 18, 2013, 07:04:47 pm »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Is this an interesting development or not ?


http://mg.co.za/article/2013-12-18-motorists-could-get-e-toll-refunds-due-to-discrepancies

I had a nice chuckle at that farkup  :lol8:


After the sign-language interpreter at the funeral, this would be the ANC's biggest and best f-up for the year!!!  :lol8:

fuckers can't tie their own shoelaces  ::)
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #883 on: December 18, 2013, 07:55:17 pm »
This is also a positive sign for the e-toll opposition!

Lets do our bit to ensure they fold!!!  :thumleft:

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #884 on: December 19, 2013, 07:55:26 am »
Excellent, hang in there everybody, the job is getting done by doing nothing at all :thumleft:
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #885 on: December 19, 2013, 03:00:35 pm »
......posted in wrong thread! See "e-toll invoice"
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #886 on: December 23, 2013, 01:51:44 pm »
Etolls unconstitutional for this reason:

e-tolling, as a matter of national procurement, has to be imposed is dealt with in section 217 of the constitution. This important section requires that any and all state procurement has to take place according to a system which is "fair, equitable, transparent, competitive and cost-effective". It is arguable that the novel and expensive e-tolling system does not necessarily comply with these five criteria. It is enough to invalidate the system of e-tolling if only one criterion is not satisfied. This is because any conduct or law that is inconsistent with the constitution is invalid.

http://www.bdlive.co.za/opinion/2013/11/26/validity-of-e-tolls-has-yet-to-be-tested-against-constitution

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #887 on: December 23, 2013, 02:02:52 pm »
Etolls unconstitutional for this reason:

e-tolling, as a matter of national procurement, has to be imposed is dealt with in section 217 of the constitution. This important section requires that any and all state procurement has to take place according to a system which is "fair, equitable, transparent, competitive and cost-effective". It is arguable that the novel and expensive e-tolling system does not necessarily comply with these five criteria. It is enough to invalidate the system of e-tolling if only one criterion is not satisfied. This is because any conduct or law that is inconsistent with the constitution is invalid.

http://www.bdlive.co.za/opinion/2013/11/26/validity-of-e-tolls-has-yet-to-be-tested-against-constitution


that, "cost effective", is  my main problem with e-tolling as well  :thumleft:
 

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #888 on: December 23, 2013, 02:17:56 pm »
Not to mention 'transparent' as well.

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #889 on: December 23, 2013, 05:37:22 pm »
I got a Final Demand via Email today for my trucks using the E Toll Highways  >:D

7 days old  >:D

Dont think so  :lol8:


Our records indicate that you have made use of the Gauteng e-roads and have outstanding e-toll transactions older than 7 days in the amount of R 457.29, reference number 131********.

Please contact the e-toll Violations Processing Centre (VPC) on 0800 SANRAL (726 725) to arrange payment.

In the email subject it says HANDOVER.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #890 on: December 23, 2013, 05:48:03 pm »
Technical question regarding the gantries, arent they suppose to have height restriction boards on them indicating max height like on bridges? What will happen if a abnormal load comes through and destroy it? Surrely the company cant be held responsible for damages if no warning was given
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #891 on: December 23, 2013, 05:51:51 pm »
I got a Final Demand via Email today for my trucks using the E Toll Highways  >:D

7 days old  >:D

Dont think so  :lol8:


Our records indicate that you have made use of the Gauteng e-roads and have outstanding e-toll transactions older than 7 days in the amount of R 457.29, reference number 131********.

Please contact the e-toll Violations Processing Centre (VPC) on 0800 SANRAL (726 725) to arrange payment.

In the email subject it says HANDOVER.

Ha, ha, ha, ha! They can't even follow their own regulations............Just ignore, there are going to be thousands of cases like this.

Can't wait until someone in Parliament asks the Min how much money has been collected so far. Hopefully about a month before the elections - Scumral won't be able to say "Its too early to determine amount" . The system would be in operation for 4 months, plenty of time.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #892 on: December 27, 2013, 11:54:09 am »

Good reading this. Heard a story that they can/will blacklist your name (which is easy enough to do) for non payment and then the AARTO blocking renewal of liscences or is this wishfull thinking
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #893 on: December 27, 2013, 11:56:17 am »

Good reading this. Heard a story that they can/will blacklist your name (which is easy enough to do) for non payment and then the AARTO blocking renewal of liscences or is this wishfull thinking

Wishful thinking boet  :thumleft:
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #894 on: December 28, 2013, 01:09:10 pm »
Renewed two car licences yesterday to get the jump o them, before they get clever, no issues at all despiite driving under gantries since day one.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #895 on: December 28, 2013, 01:11:00 pm »
heard on the news this morning a South African company is consulting with Bob up north to implement e-tolls around Harare.  :imaposer: :imaposer:

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #896 on: December 29, 2013, 10:46:27 am »
I've not received anything yet, but I am interested to see when it does get here as I am registered owner on 3 cars (2 kids) and a bike that use the e-toll roads very irregularly - like one gantry per week. 

I wonder if they'll send a demand for R3.21x2=R.6.42 by registered post, or if they'll wait until the end of the month before sending on all four?  :deal:
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #897 on: December 29, 2013, 09:14:08 pm »
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I wonder if they'll send a demand for R3.21x2=R.6.42 by registered post, or if they'll wait until the end of the month before sending on all four?  deal

Aha, but they can't wait until the end of the month, because hat would be unconstitutional, because by doing so, they have deprived you of having the option to pay the lower tariff by paying within 7 days.
If more than one tariff is offered, you must be given the option of which one you want to pay.
By sending you an invoice after a month, they effectively remove that choice and dictate to you which tariff you will pay, no no no, not on.

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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #898 on: December 30, 2013, 09:49:29 am »
These fckrs started phoning me for the E Toll money  >:D   >:D

The guy asked me if I'm going to pay, told him NO. He did not respond.
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Re: E-Tolls go live - 3 December 2013
« Reply #899 on: December 30, 2013, 12:13:16 pm »
These fckrs started phoning me for the E Toll money  >:D   >:D

The guy asked me if I'm going to pay, told him NO. He did not respond.

dis die regte antwoord!  :thumleft:

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