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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2013, 02:42:00 pm »
Just spent an entertaining 45 minutes with their call centre trying to find out if I owe anything (which would be surprising, as I didn't use any of the highways)...

try it :)

0800 726 725.

Refused politely to register, and insisted that they provide a reference number when he said that he couldn't search for all my vehicles so that if there were any fees, I could prove that I had tried to pay them.

I really recomment trying it - remember, it is the only toll free thing you get out of e-tolls...

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I forgot to check if My wifes car, or my traler have been through the gantries... had to call them again.

Amazing how they just give out peoples details - gave the numberplate off a car on the street outside my office & got the owners name & address...

This is classic!  :biggrin:
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2013, 02:47:25 pm »


This is classic!  :biggrin:
It is also illegal to divulge private information to the wrong person...

http://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/bills/B9-2009_ProtectionofPersonalInformation.pdf

We would be in deep doo doo if we did the same here at the Varsity... :sip:

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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #62 on: December 03, 2013, 02:50:21 pm »
u realise what that 45 minute or 15 minute call every day is going to cost you ?

toll free number
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #63 on: December 03, 2013, 02:52:02 pm »
u realise what that 45 minute or 15 minute call every day is going to cost you ?

toll free number
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well ok ..toll free does not mean its free someone pays

and of course that lil matter of your time .....while u may consider yr time free I consider mine to be substancially more expensive than free
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2013, 02:54:15 pm »
well ok ..toll free does not mean its free someone pays

YOU are paying out of your toll fee being deducted from YOUR e-Tag... :imaposer:
 

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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2013, 02:57:07 pm »
u realise what that 45 minute or 15 minute call every day is going to cost you ?

toll free number
RobC's smiley:   :sip:

well ok ..toll free does not mean its free someone pays

and of course that lil matter of your time .....while u may consider yr time free I consider mine to be substancially more expensive than free

You can do it while surfing WD... it's not like you actually need to pay attention to the phone call.
Sanral pays... and if their system is clogged up with useless time wasters it comes a little bit closer to falling over.

Call it old school DDOS...
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2013, 03:13:36 pm »

and of course that lil matter of your time .....while u may consider yr time free I consider mine to be substancially more expensive than free

Thank you for spending your substantially priced (or is it prized) time on us with your insightful comments...
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2013, 03:16:44 pm »

and of course that lil matter of your time .....while u may consider yr time free I consider mine to be substancially more expensive than free

Thank you for spending your substantially priced (or is it prized) time on us with your insightful comments...

for you Bud, I killa the bull hey

have a great awesome day now hey
« Last Edit: December 03, 2013, 03:18:07 pm by IceCreamMan »
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2013, 03:36:46 pm »

and of course that lil matter of your time .....while u may consider yr time free I consider mine to be substancially more expensive than free

Thank you for spending your substantially priced (or is it prized) time on us with your insightful comments...

for you Bud, I killa the bull hey

have a great awesome day now hey

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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2013, 06:47:43 pm »
dunno hey I could be wrong but I get the distinct impression the resistance has died a bit in the last couple of hours,,,have all the militant rebels gone home and having a nice evening meal now ....... :pot:

come on ouens , resistance is a 24 hour job not between 8 and 5
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2013, 07:12:35 pm »
dunno hey I could be wrong but I get the distinct impression the resistance has died a bit in the last couple of hours,,,have all the militant rebels gone home and having a nice evening meal now ....... :pot:

come on ouens , resistance is a 24 hour job not between 8 and 5

you could be right.... that could mean that you are no longer the lonely peos with an e-tag and don't have to hide behind a woman to admit it, but who knows?
 

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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2013, 08:18:28 pm »
but seriously ouens , I will refrain from posting in these hallowed threads about resistance and defcont's numbers an realise that my puerile posts are offensive to the serious militant freedom fighters so take this as my last post ..I will carry on reading em though and dirtyxt I hope we can get at least 15 tough wilddogs to protest on the highways of jhb.....preferably behind barriers cos we not seriously that opposed to this to actually put our likves at risk an all hey ....

good luck ouens, if sanral backtrack I will come here an apologise profusely and tell you all what a twatwaffle I am ,,,if sanral don't backtrack I trust you guys will own up when u buy the offensive beep beep thingies :ricky:
« Last Edit: December 03, 2013, 08:23:02 pm by IceCreamMan »
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2013, 09:05:49 pm »
Those that support e_tolls ( registered or bought e tags) are no better than the currupt mafia government locusts

Its like being against child abuse , but buying kiddie porn , lack of moral fibre and backbone

ppl with etag lack moral fibre an backbone ....

are you equating e tag purchsers to paedophiles and can we use the same strategy to legitimise this, i.e god made me do it , its the way I was born

yweah maybe not the perfect comparison , but a comparison non the less

taggers have no back bone  yes , or they actually believe what they are doing is right , and therefore support corruption
or they are doing it becoz of . the " ohh what can we do " syndrome , most people that have little , or complete lack of conviction and moral fibre act this way , in the face of conflict , and choose the least "bad " for them , fuck the future , fuck the rest , and fuck morals , and fuck what is right

choose yours



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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #73 on: December 03, 2013, 09:44:41 pm »
This really is the first opportunity as individual citizens to stand together as a collective and do something about corruption. Fark all we can do about the money wasted in general and for instance spend on Nkandla etc except voice our displeasure.

As a certain demographic which primarily represents the "standard WD" - no offense to anyone, we sure as hell are not going to change anything with a vote - might contribute, but "we" wont change a regime by whatever vote we cast.

So what is left ?

E-Tolling - a universal evil.

What action is left for your garden variety citizen, who is not really in a position to go and blow up/burn down the gantries and SANRAL offices ?

How can a message be sent ?

Don't get tagged, make life difficult, make them work for their money, congest the system. Starve it from funds.

Do not buy all the BS smoke and mirrors about supposed high compliance %

Remember TIA, we might be dealing with a first world high tech, state of art system here, but we are also dealing with our highly "effective" personnel and associated institutions like SAPO etc whom have to handle the bulk of the "extra" work to get a few millions bills out there.

If history has taught us anything, then it is SA seldom gets this level of technical efficiency right................. AARTO, E-Natis etc etc etc.

Then the flipside, those who reckon why feed the beats more than it's due ? What is the point ?

Well lets see :

The more people that capitulate, the more you show gov that you are complacent and compliant
The easier it is for their system to succeed.

And then then of course the fact that you think the GOV will subssidize your travels !! Seriously ?
This is the crux of the matter actually. Give me ONE reason why Zuma and co will continue for any length of time to subsidize you ?

Please I am dying to know the answer ?

Or do you really think that the current discounted rate which result in a dead loss for the whole project will be carried forward indefinitely for your benefit ?


So it may be step forward and two back at the moment - apparently.

Lets see what happens when the billing starts,  when people actually start paying. When rates go up - lets see how many are then still singing the "saving" tune.

And that is not mentioning all the other basics which will increase almost immediately and we will be paying extra for forever.

But at the end of the day, those willing to oppose the system only have ONE realistic way of doing it and it is not to get tagged.

And it ties in nicely with the SA way, easy, straight forward and does not require you to leave your arm chair  ;D

We all know, that we do not like to blow shit up until we really really have no choice ........................

 ;)


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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2013, 09:52:45 pm »
This really is the first opportunity as individual citizens to stand together as a collective and do something about corruption. Fark all we can do about the money wasted in general and for instance spend on Nkandla etc except voice our displeasure.

As a certain demographic which primarily represents the "standard WD" - no offense to anyone, we sure as hell are not going to change anything with a vote - might contribute, but "we" wont change a regime by whatever vote we cast.

So what is left ?

E-Tolling - a universal evil.

What action is left for your garden variety citizen, who is not really in a position to go and blow up/burn down the gantries and SANRAL offices ?

How can a message be sent ?

Don't get tagged, make life difficult, make them work for their money, congest the system. Starve it from funds.

Do not buy all the BS smoke and mirrors about supposed high compliance %

Remember TIA, we might be dealing with a first world high tech, state of art system here, but we are also dealing with our highly "effective" personnel and associated institutions like SAPO etc whom have to handle the bulk of the "extra" work to get a few millions bills out there.

If history has taught us anything, then it is SA seldom gets this level of technical efficiency right................. AARTO, E-Natis etc etc etc.

Then the flipside, those who reckon why feed the beats more than it's due ? What is the point ?

Well lets see :

The more people that capitulate, the more you show gov that you are complacent and compliant
The easier it is for their system to succeed.

And then then of course the fact that you think the GOV will subssidize your travels !! Seriously ?
This is the crux of the matter actually. Give me ONE reason why Zuma and co will continue for any length of time to subsidize you ?

Please I am dying to know the answer ?

Or do you really think that the current discounted rate which result in a dead loss for the whole project will be carried forward indefinitely for your benefit ?


So it may be step forward and two back at the moment - apparently.

Lets see what happens when the billing starts,  when people actually start paying. When rates go up - lets see how many are then still singing the "saving" tune.

And that is not mentioning all the other basics which will increase almost immediately and we will be paying extra for forever.

But at the end of the day, those willing to oppose the system only have ONE realistic way of doing it and it is not to get tagged.

And it ties in nicely with the SA way, easy, straight forward and does not require you to leave your arm chair  ;D

We all know, that we do not like to blow shit up until we really really have no choice ........................

 ;)





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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #75 on: December 03, 2013, 10:01:31 pm »
as a garden variety citizen I concur.
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #76 on: December 03, 2013, 10:20:52 pm »
good post BB 

if , at least  we could all at least kick the rapist in the balls , at least once , before offering up our asses .........  a victory would be achieved ,  sadly some are just to eager to get reamed and be someones bitch ( and even supply their own Vaseline  )

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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #77 on: December 03, 2013, 11:34:47 pm »
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2013, 11:57:58 pm »
fukk carike keuzenkampf  ,  spineless supporter of corruption
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Re: Taking the fight to a new level - DefCon 2
« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2013, 12:05:56 am »
fukk carike keuzenkampf  ,  spineless supporter of corruption


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