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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #160 on: January 23, 2014, 09:46:25 am »
Haven't been to a protest ride against e-Tolls yet... will be there for this one.

dude these BAT people are bats...
remember to ride in an orderly fashion,  with your SABS approved numberplate firmly attached to your bike.
this way,  as you go down the highway,  SANRAL will be able to take the necessary photos for billing.
also NB not to block too many lanes - don't inconvenience any other motorists with your protest...

fuckit,  are you BAT people SANRAL agents?
why are you trying to get people to ride down the highway?
SANRAL are going to love this protest,  more people to bill on what is usually a quiet day for them.
think of all the extra billing they can do by you guys making the meeting point at some ridiculously far flung venue,  where everyone will have to highway there.
SANRAL staff will probably line the highway,  and wave e-toll flags in support of your 'protest' as you pass by...



This is a very good point, and something I also thought of   ??? ??? ... but then again, if you're protesting e-Tolls, at least there will be proof of how many people were there, and also, what would be the point of protesting e-Tolls and riding on M1?

I don't have the answers to these questions, perhaps I will ask them on the FB page.

I think it would be better to ride to Pretoria on the dirt, and deliver a memorandum at the Union Buildings... or something? Then we can braai afterwards on the lawn.  >:D
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« Reply #161 on: January 23, 2014, 09:48:19 am »
Valid point, why display number plates?


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« Reply #162 on: January 23, 2014, 09:55:15 am »
Bikers Aligned with e-Tolls = BAT
i think i am going to protest against this 'protest' ride by SANRAL's secret agents,  the BAT people.
i have to wash my hair.
 

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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #163 on: January 23, 2014, 10:05:50 am »
Haven't been to a protest ride against e-Tolls yet... will be there for this one.

dude these BAT people are bats...
remember to ride in an orderly fashion,  with your SABS approved numberplate firmly attached to your bike.
this way,  as you go down the highway,  SANRAL will be able to take the necessary photos for billing.
also NB not to block too many lanes - don't inconvenience any other motorists with your protest...

fuckit,  are you BAT people SANRAL agents?
why are you trying to get people to ride down the highway?
SANRAL are going to love this protest,  more people to bill on what is usually a quiet day for them.
think of all the extra billing they can do by you guys making the meeting point at some ridiculously far flung venue,  where everyone will have to highway there.
SANRAL staff will probably line the highway,  and wave e-toll flags in support of your 'protest' as you pass by...



that's more work for Sanral and more bills that we are not paying, so all good
 

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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #164 on: January 23, 2014, 10:28:50 am »
Haven't been to a protest ride against e-Tolls yet... will be there for this one.

dude these BAT people are bats...
remember to ride in an orderly fashion,  with your SABS approved numberplate firmly attached to your bike.
this way,  as you go down the highway,  SANRAL will be able to take the necessary photos for billing.
also NB not to block too many lanes - don't inconvenience any other motorists with your protest...

fuckit,  are you BAT people SANRAL agents?
why are you trying to get people to ride down the highway?
SANRAL are going to love this protest,  more people to bill on what is usually a quiet day for them.
think of all the extra billing they can do by you guys making the meeting point at some ridiculously far flung venue,  where everyone will have to highway there.
SANRAL staff will probably line the highway,  and wave e-toll flags in support of your 'protest' as you pass by...


dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.
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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #165 on: January 23, 2014, 10:36:36 am »
dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.

bullshit aside,  it sounds to be poorly arranged.
to my mind, it would make more sense having multiple start points - all on ramps to the highway.
you don't need more than a group of about 10 bikes to occupy the 2 lanes from the right on the highway,  and operate as a rolling roadblock.
have stickers/signs fitted over numberplates displaying a message,  like for eg:  this is an e-toll protest - SANRAL will love viewing all those photos
nobody can bill you,  you slow the whole highway down (but allow people to pass in the slower 2 lanes to the left),  and 2 or 4 metro cops are no match for 10 guys on bikes (who can be joined swifty by another 10 from the next rolling robot 5km behind them,  and another 10 from the next rolling roadblock).
 

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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #166 on: January 23, 2014, 10:43:24 am »
dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.

bullshit aside,  it sounds to be poorly arranged.
to my mind, it would make more sense having multiple start points - all on ramps to the highway.
you don't need more than a group of about 10 bikes to occupy the 2 lanes from the right on the highway,  and operate as a rolling roadblock.
have stickers/signs fitted over numberplates displaying a message,  like for eg:  this is an e-toll protest - SANRAL will love viewing all those photos
nobody can bill you,  you slow the whole highway down (but allow people to pass in the slower 2 lanes to the left),  and 2 or 4 metro cops are no match for 10 guys on bikes (who can be joined swifty by another 10 from the next rolling robot 5km behind them,  and another 10 from the next rolling roadblock).

AFAIK the purpose of the ride is not to disrupt traffic, but to rather show others that we oppose e-tolling and will not pay

Different starting points would not have been approved by the Police - you realise a permit is needed for these rides?

The start/end venue was changed, as the amount of people that will attend is more than the original venue can handle
 

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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #167 on: January 23, 2014, 10:44:53 am »
ok you make good points, but i don't think this a professional outfit though and its just some okes trying to make a difference. I'm surprised that they changed it 2 days before but i also trust its for the best.

 i don't think everyone will ignore you if you join up where suits you best. I'm happy to go to the new meeting point, doesn't bother me much.

join in where you can, I'm going for shits and giggles. I hope we are in a few surprises (Police/Media/Taxis/Traffic/wheelies/hotdogs) so I'm game to get into it from the start.

lets me know where and when you gonna join ill keep and eye out. and please please don't confuse me with ICM. same bike. different people.  :ricky:
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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #168 on: January 23, 2014, 10:48:19 am »
I'm going to the BAT ride on saturday 25th at Wemer pan.
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« Reply #169 on: January 23, 2014, 10:59:41 am »
please please don't confuse me with ICM. same bike. different people.  :ricky:

no chance of that,
i know him,  i do not know you.
i'll keep an eye out for a guy riding the same bike,  but who looks nothing like ICM.
 

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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #170 on: January 23, 2014, 11:12:16 am »
Just be there and support please
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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #171 on: January 23, 2014, 11:54:41 am »
please please don't confuse me with ICM. same bike. different people.  :ricky:

no chance of that,
i know him,  i do not know you.
i'll keep an eye out for a guy riding the same bike,  but who looks nothing like ICM.

ja, the ugly ou with the same bike as ICM ....then must be dirtyxt cos he looks nothing like me  :biggrin:

Bundu, who is this "we" you keep referring to, I thought u cannot make it ....

wemmer pan is a bit of a mission considering my location, why not continue with the original WD protest OR is 3 bikes not enough
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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #172 on: January 23, 2014, 11:58:51 am »
dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.

bullshit aside,  it sounds to be poorly arranged.
to my mind, it would make more sense having multiple start points - all on ramps to the highway.
you don't need more than a group of about 10 bikes to occupy the 2 lanes from the right on the highway,  and operate as a rolling roadblock.
have stickers/signs fitted over numberplates displaying a message,  like for eg:  this is an e-toll protest - SANRAL will love viewing all those photos
nobody can bill you,  you slow the whole highway down (but allow people to pass in the slower 2 lanes to the left),  and 2 or 4 metro cops are no match for 10 guys on bikes (who can be joined swifty by another 10 from the next rolling robot 5km behind them,  and another 10 from the next rolling roadblock).

AFAIK the purpose of the ride is not to disrupt traffic, but to rather show others that we oppose e-tolling and will not pay

Different starting points would not have been approved by the Police - you realise a permit is needed for these rides?

The start/end venue was changed, as the amount of people that will attend is more than the original venue can handle


Really really and are the permits not specific to location then? how come permit got changes so quickly...

So all those on the protest must be licenced , have number plates to ensure we don't fall foul of the PERMIT

Sounds like a rough biker protest this one
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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #173 on: January 23, 2014, 12:05:23 pm »
dont be like that man, you're sounding like ICM now. :eek7: so the meeting point has changed, does make a bit of sense as having it in the west could be problematic if a large number of okes are coming from the east. I would think that discussions were had and the decision was made based on a highest number. who said anything about having to have your number plates on anyway?

roll with the punches and come support it bra.

bullshit aside,  it sounds to be poorly arranged.
to my mind, it would make more sense having multiple start points - all on ramps to the highway.
you don't need more than a group of about 10 bikes to occupy the 2 lanes from the right on the highway,  and operate as a rolling roadblock.
have stickers/signs fitted over numberplates displaying a message,  like for eg:  this is an e-toll protest - SANRAL will love viewing all those photos
nobody can bill you,  you slow the whole highway down (but allow people to pass in the slower 2 lanes to the left),  and 2 or 4 metro cops are no match for 10 guys on bikes (who can be joined swifty by another 10 from the next rolling robot 5km behind them,  and another 10 from the next rolling roadblock).

AFAIK the purpose of the ride is not to disrupt traffic, but to rather show others that we oppose e-tolling and will not pay

Different starting points would not have been approved by the Police - you realise a permit is needed for these rides?

The start/end venue was changed, as the amount of people that will attend is more than the original venue can handle


Really really and are the permits not specific to location then? how come permit got changes so quickly...

So all those on the protest must be licenced , have number plates to ensure we don't fall foul of the PERMIT

Sounds like a rough biker protest this one

but we must alos let the ppl know that we very very angry and cwoss at the e toll system hey ....put on a stern face an look very cross....

are we allowed to use cuss words , I mean does the permit permit this or must we refrain from such?

and what does the permit permit regarding ganjora an his beer?
« Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 12:06:10 pm by IceCreamMan »
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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #174 on: January 23, 2014, 12:06:44 pm »
my bike got very loud exhaust , is this permissible under the terms of the permit?
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« Reply #175 on: January 23, 2014, 12:08:33 pm »
Really really and are the permits not specific to location then? how come permit got changes so quickly...

So all those on the protest must be licenced , have number plates to ensure we don't fall foul of the PERMIT

Sounds like a rough biker protest this one

comrade leader,  i'm with you.
we can wash our hair during this Bikers Aligned to e-Tolls 'protest',  and then go out stealthily,  in the middle of the night,  and do real revolutionary stuff.
burn the gantries!!!
fuck riding around with a permit,  a SABS approved numberplate on,  and a police escort.   WTF???
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« Reply #176 on: January 23, 2014, 12:13:03 pm »
Really really and are the permits not specific to location then? how come permit got changes so quickly...

So all those on the protest must be licenced , have number plates to ensure we don't fall foul of the PERMIT

Sounds like a rough biker protest this one

comrade leader,  i'm with you.
we can wash our hair during this process,  and then go out stealthily,  in the middle of the night,  and do real revolutionary stuff.
burn the gantries!!!
fuck riding around with a permit,  a SABS approved numberplate on,  and a police escort.


Viva Ganjora  viva ......bloody agents and their permits be damned.....

viva hair washing viva .......

now the ouens who go to the "protest" and under the auspices of the permit will ridicule us saying we spineless etc etc ...

irony ek se irony....

here's my 2 cents ......a number of these "protests" have been staged with no difference made at all..... foolish to think another protest along the same lines is going to make any difference to be honest ....time to escalate the protests in order to be noticed ....

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« Reply #177 on: January 23, 2014, 12:14:12 pm »
Join the FB page and you will get a bit of understanding of the logistics involved getting this many people together in one place.
these rides are all done legally and with permits.
money is put down and if anything goes wrong the person whos name is on the permit is held liable.

Secondly, I am amazed at people who ride to Lesotho/Botswana/around the world, that are complaining  "oor, it's a extra few kms, don't think I can make it now".

FFS, stand up for something, make a bit of effort, or stay at home and STFU.

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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #178 on: January 23, 2014, 12:18:37 pm »
Join the FB page and you will get a bit of understanding of the logistics involved getting this many people together in one place.
these rides are all done legally and with permits.
money is put down and if anything goes wrong the person whos name is on the permit is held liable.

Secondly, I am amazed at people who ride to Lesotho/Botswana/around the world, that are complaining  "oor, it's a extra few kms, don't think I can make it now".

FFS, stand up for something, make a bit of effort, or stay at home and STFU.

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but but but .....those few km's are on tollroads .......

just a question, if 5000 bikers happened to take to the highway at say 9 am at the Xavier road onramp , is this actually illegal?

don't understand the need for a permit ......a gathering of bikers is not illegal, its not 1988

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Re: Lets stage a Gauteng etoll protest with bikes! how many people?
« Reply #179 on: January 23, 2014, 12:40:46 pm »
ja guys, i know its a bit of a inconvenience but just go with it this once. shouldnt be whinging about riding your bikes on a sat morning anyway...
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