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Offline Bernt

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2013, 10:26:28 am »
Thanks guys  I booked a testride today on an LC, and put it through its paces. The 1200 was easier to ride very, very slow to me, but mentally I will have to get over the "this is an expensive bike" thing....
The mass of the bike is of no consern to me.
The throttle at low speeds are much more controlable to me than the 800, even when the 800 already has a module on.

In a nutshell the 800 will be replaced by an LC early next year.

Thanks for the replies guys.

may I throw a spanner in the works???  next year the adv 1200 lc becomes available - it has a heavier fly wheel thus improving stability offroad.... I have always avoided the adv due to bulkiness and looks and rather gone for the GS but I am seriously considering the new adv next time round.
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2013, 10:32:24 am »
Thanks guys  I booked a testride today on an LC, and put it through its paces. The 1200 was easier to ride very, very slow to me, but mentally I will have to get over the "this is an expensive bike" thing....
The mass of the bike is of no consern to me.
The throttle at low speeds are much more controlable to me than the 800, even when the 800 already has a module on.

In a nutshell the 800 will be replaced by an LC early next year.

Thanks for the replies guys.

may I throw a spanner in the works???  next year the adv 1200 lc becomes available - it has a heavier fly wheel thus improving stability offroad.... I have always avoided the adv due to bulkiness and looks and rather gone for the GS but I am seriously considering the new adv next time round.

I am very tempted :-)

My LC has everything the new GSA would have barring the fuel capacity and the heavier flywheel. I have learnt to deal with the LC in slow technical stuff but it is a bit temperamental. I guess the proof will be in the ride. Does the low rev grunt make up for the increase in weight? Given that very slow technical riding is the exception, I am not convinced.
 

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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2013, 11:18:43 am »
You must remember the costs also Knormoer, the handling and such may be debatable vs a well specked GS LC and a ADV LC. But in the past the adv was good value for money.

I would also look at an LC adv, I just need to wait a bit for my budget to get better and 2nd hand LC adv to become available. My MASTERPLAN!
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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2013, 01:12:17 pm »
You must remember the costs also Knormoer, the handling and such may be debatable vs a well specked GS LC and a ADV LC. But in the past the adv was good value for money.

I would also look at an LC adv, I just need to wait a bit for my budget to get better and 2nd hand LC adv to become available. My MASTERPLAN!

Very true and also why I am skeptical. I already spent all the money to prep my bike for DS riding and will get very little additional benefit.
 

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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2013, 01:30:06 pm »
I would love to have a run against an LC with my bike! Just to see the difference.

I have a full remis pipe on and a Wunderlich fuel controller. The wunderlich gives a solid oomph at high revs which feels like the same pull the LC has. But the LC has that pull throughout the whole rev range (awesomeness). On a run though I will be at high revs all the time, so I would like to see how my perception compares to reality.

Now that would be interesting indeed. I recently rode with my brother and we compared the LC with his GSA. I toyed with him up to 190 and then just pulled away. Worth noting that his bike is stock standard and pre DOHC.

Yap, I know the butt dyno isnt worth much. I also have the SOHC but have driven an SOHC ADV and mine is definitely a lot quicker. But I wont put my own money down, an LC will probably play with me as well.

Another reason to get an LC then!
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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2013, 03:06:08 pm »
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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2014, 02:25:00 pm »
No thanks to the LCAdv, but perhaps I can buy a heavier flyweel!
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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2014, 02:34:24 pm »
as julle nou klaar kak gepraat het oor 'n lc en 800 gaan en koop die 1190 KTM
 

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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2017, 10:18:39 pm »
Old thread but worth noting nonetheless.
2015 and younger models GS  LC,  GS LC Trophy and GS LC Rally now also come with the heavier flywheel of the GSA LC.

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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2017, 12:32:33 pm »
Funny reading my old replies in an old thread.

On the original topic, the 800 does not really do better at the GStrophy neither is it the weapon of choice. That should explain a lot.
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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2017, 12:45:10 pm »
Agreed. Take an XChallenge ;)
On all these bikes weight is the issue. You will sail through things with a YZ250F.
All is relative. I find my GS Trophy lighter (I know it isn't) than my 800GS I had.
Low center of gravity I guess.
All I need to know is watching the guys and girls doing the GS Trophy challenge on these big bikes and making it look easy to know that the bike isn't the whole problem. My lack of skills are. :)
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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2017, 12:50:30 pm »
het self nog nie n 800 gery nie net die 1200 s .my vrou het die 700 gery en ry nou die LC,een v my riding buddies het n 800adv gery so ek se [of lieg] uit hulle monde alby sweer by die 1200 s oor die volgende punte 1200 se draai sirkel kleiner [goeie punt by tegnies [ beter talk , en throttle respons beter  ,ek het die 1200 adv gery toe die Trofee en nou die LC adv en die LCs is vir my beter ,geniet jou LC hoor :lol8:
 

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Re: BMW 1200GS LC vs 800GS technical rides
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2017, 05:23:48 pm »
Thanks Dries. Ek geniet die LC baie!
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