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Offline Torque Curve

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690 Hard comfort seat
« on: December 10, 2013, 09:39:13 am »
Yes the title does seem a bit contradictory because most will say a comfort seat should be soft, but my mate who rides a 690 recently fractured his coccyx so a soft seat of any shape is out of the question.
He got hold of a second seat of which I removed the cover and foam. This seat was shaped from the pan up using zero memory, closed cell PU foam. High density for levelling the pan 5 - 10mm thick and medium density for the top- and side layers of the seat.
The seat area has been widened and flattened out and the overall seat height increased by approx 20mm. The middle of the seat area was hollowed slightly to further reduce pressure on the coccyx.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2013, 09:43:01 am by Torque Curve »
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2013, 09:48:27 am »
As can be seen the new seat is quite a bit wider in the seated position, but stand-up riding is not compromised at all.
The new cover complete with detail stitching is with the upholsterers. Pics of that to follow soon...
BTW, my mate is chuffed to bits with the new-found comfort.
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2013, 04:29:44 pm »
I want one! How much?
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 05:43:02 pm »
 :thumleft:
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 05:53:52 pm »
Need one of those to save my coccyx.  :thumleft:
Also believe that the softness of the seat is less important than the shape and support of the seat.
 

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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 06:55:57 pm »
I want one! How much?

And you can have one, but must come see me first to discuss your exact requirements.  :deal: I'm on holiday now so any time is good. 0827027882, Hannes
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 07:03:34 pm »
Hannes - do you then know your way around the different foams and seat construction? Where have you picked this up and knowledge of shaping - looks impressive. Only today I was looking again at the Seat Concepts offerings - have you seen them close up and personal?
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 08:14:54 pm »
Hannes - do you then know your way around the different foams and seat construction? Where have you picked this up and knowledge of shaping - looks impressive. Only today I was looking again at the Seat Concepts offerings - have you seen them close up and personal?

The best foams I've ever come across is produced by Sondor. Most of their PU foams are closed cell and water proof. I've done many seats for myself over the years so have figured out what tools and processes work best. Then I guess I have a keen eye for proportion and a bit of pattern making experience also comes in handy. I will check the seat concepts ones out.
I prefer to build from the pan up so that the original cover and foam remains untouched if needed again for resale.
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2013, 08:25:52 pm »
Only today I was looking again at the Seat Concepts offerings - have you seen them close up and personal?

I looked at their site and reckon I can produce as good a product. I shape to personal preference and design cover panels to suit the bike. Just waiting for pix of the completed 690 seat with cover on.
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 09:28:42 pm »
Cool - may well talk to you in the future re reshaping a seat for my 450. I have a new cover already.
Seat Concepts seem to basically have a variety of layered foams and their shaping generally gives a bigger butt print (not dissimilar to what you have done here) for more comfort ... not really such a radical 'concept'  ::)
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 09:35:18 pm »
Cool - may well talk to you in the future re reshaping a seat for my 450. I have a new cover already.

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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2013, 08:52:56 am »
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2013, 02:17:48 pm »
Cover on and bike prepared to leave on a PE to Sutherland trip. Please note some of the dents on the rear of the new seat were pressed by the GL straps. The dents pushed back after the pics were taken, but the rider was in a hurry to get going.
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2013, 02:21:14 pm »
And more
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2013, 03:10:03 pm »
I like to put a doubled over piece of non-slip perforated boot liner under my GL bags - allow it to cover the seat and contact patches on side covers. Protects and grips  :thumleft:
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2013, 08:20:35 pm »
I have a Seat Concepts seat and this looks as good. :thumleft:
 

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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2013, 08:37:19 pm »
Looks much better than my sheep skin ...... 
 

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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2013, 10:55:46 pm »
How much would something like this cost?
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2013, 08:27:37 am »
How much would something like this cost?

How does R1300 sound? Black and/or grey vinyl with detail stitching in white. That leaves enough difference for postage or courier expenses if you're not in PE.
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Re: 690 Hard comfort seat
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2013, 05:31:50 pm »
How much would something like this cost?

How does R1300 sound? Black and/or grey vinyl with detail stitching in white. That leaves enough difference for postage or courier expenses if you're not in PE.

Ignore the R1300 price tag for now. Until I become a vendor on this forum I'll do seats at cost.
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