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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2014, 06:28:02 pm »
Moral of the story never buy a first year production anything in its first year  :bueller:
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2014, 07:01:41 pm »
Real pitty as to all testers to machine is so 'smooth' and powerful compared to the oilhead....but I trust the Germans will sort this and feel sorry for the guys on the first model year. I will not trust this bike on any long trips....sorry

Bike's power delivery is much smoother and heaps more nm. This has nothing to do with the chains snapping, and from what I have heard it is not only the first model year with this flaw
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2014, 08:40:28 am »
And this is not a once off issue. I am not slagging any brand.but this is not great news to any die hard Bmw fan
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2014, 08:45:36 am »
And this is not a once off issue. I am not slagging any brand.but this is not great news to any die hard Bmw fan

I can't find much about this on the internet.  If it was a major issue, it would have been all over the internet.
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2014, 01:18:31 pm »
I know of dealer that has 7 cam chain related issues
 

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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2014, 02:54:26 pm »
I know of dealer that has 7 cam chain related issues

I will chat to them on Monday, cause there is only one dealer :)
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2014, 07:56:52 pm »
I know of dealer that has 7 cam chain related issues

Could be, but still no noise on the internet.  Very strange if you consider the amount of noise about the head shake, for instance.
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2014, 09:40:28 pm »
I know of dealer that has 7 cam chain related issues

Could be, but still no noise on the internet.  Very strange if you consider the amount of noise about the head shake, for instance.

If the cam chains were potentially dangerous like a headshake which was the cause of guys falling is would have been another story.

It saddens me in a way to read about this as I know foe a Fact that Ben is a great Beemer fan and one hates sometimes to admit that your 'brand' has got some problemes that can't be hidden any more....pitty,
 

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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2014, 05:34:33 am »
If the cam chains were potentially dangerous like a headshake which was the cause of guys falling is would have been another story.


Not true.  Every little issue a Beemer may have had over the years, is well presented if you search the internet.  Cam chain issues with older air cooled bikes galore and so on.  No news on the cam chain issue on the LC.  Now, maybe it will come.  All I am saying it is not there yet and that makes me wonder (rightly, or wrongly) is it is as big an issue as it is made out to be already?
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2014, 10:12:45 am »
If the cam chains were potentially dangerous like a headshake which was the cause of guys falling is would have been another story.


Not true.  Every little issue a Beemer may have had over the years, is well presented if you search the internet.  Cam chain issues with older air cooled bikes galore and so on.  No news on the cam chain issue on the LC.  Now, maybe it will come.  All I am saying it is not there yet and that makes me wonder (rightly, or wrongly) is it is as big an issue as it is made out to be already?

Its bigger than any previous issues on the K 50
Slack in cam chain causing the chain pinns to be ground down is a real issue

Apparently  tolerances between cam chain and 4th gear is causing the problems...
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2014, 06:26:11 pm »


Its bigger than any previous issues on the K 50
Slack in cam chain causing the chain pinns to be ground down is a real issue

All I am saying is I am surprised,  that if an issue as big as some suggest,  that there is nothing on the social media.  I will be watching during the coming days though.
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2014, 06:38:23 pm »


Its bigger than any previous issues on the K 50
Slack in cam chain causing the chain pinns to be ground down is a real issue

All I am saying is I am surprised,  that if an issue as big as some suggest,  that there is nothing on the social media.  I will be watching during the coming days though.

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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2014, 07:31:48 pm »
Made a sound clip of our bikes for a friend who is in ICU and while doing that it got me wondering.  If the cam chain is touching something else,  with enough force to wear the pins off,  would it not make a hell of a racket?
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2014, 07:42:48 pm »
Made a sound clip of our bikes for a friend who is in ICU and while doing that it got me wondering.  If the cam chain is touching something else,  with enough force to wear the pins off,  would it not make a hell of a racket?

It would but if it happens at high RPM you may not hear it over the road, wind and exhaust noise.
 

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Re: LC engine failure
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2014, 05:32:51 pm »
So my info on grinding of the pins was spot on
Fck sake! would all the bikes then not suffer the same issue?
Serious enough for a general recall I would say
The chain guide is the issue, I am told and should be redesigned
 

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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2014, 06:23:53 pm »
Oh no- hope you are all wrong...
 

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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2014, 06:33:40 pm »
All of you with oilheads , smile and wave, smile and wave!

Antvan, congratulations on covering 10,000 trouble free - other than the loose bolt of course km.

But consider this - before BMW motorcycle engines were built in China they were built in a country called Germany and if you should happen to pass by a little town in Texas, called Dilley, stop and have a look at Hank's 1995 1100 GS - At last count it had ridden 768,000 km - 480,000 miles ! And it's the same engine it left the factory with . Now the smoother, more powerful, liquid cooled miracle gives it up after 4000 km ?

Can there possibly be one owner of an LC who is absolutely confident in the engine in his bike ?
 
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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2014, 06:45:31 pm »
I am, even after loosing the first, I still maintain that statistically it's insignificant or there would have been a lot more noise on ADVrider, UKGSer and Wilddogs.

The link above was until recently the only published case outside SA.

It still looks like there is an exceptional issue with a small minority of the launch edition bikes. None reported for the 2014.
 

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Re: LC engine failure
« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2014, 09:39:20 pm »
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