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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #540 on: July 18, 2014, 09:52:56 am »
Understood  :thumleft:
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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #541 on: July 18, 2014, 09:54:27 am »
Sorry for the sarcasm ;) 

Our bikes needs to be fully roadworthy!, but what a schlep!
 

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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #542 on: July 18, 2014, 10:04:31 am »
Please check with Alex. You all have his email address. I am sure the below is on the Amageza site as well.

Not so black and white regarding roadworthyness etc.

Quote from him on a mail with a similar question:

Hey everyone!

We have exemption for non-licensed vehicles under the following conditions:
Driver/ Rider needs to be licensed for the category of vehicle. For a quad you need either a bike license for the same engine size motorbike or a code 8 drivers license, and Side x Side you need a minimum of a code 8 drivers license.
All machines to have head and taillight with a working brake light and at least one rear-view mirror. Additionally:
Bikes and quads vehicles have to comply with the FIM Cross-Country Rallies Technical Rules. (Download from the FIM website)
Above must also comply with the MSA Motorcycle & Quad Off Road Racing Regulations Applicable To All Events.
In the event of a discrepancy, MSA directives will take priority.
Side x Sides need to comply with MSA 2014 Cross Country SSR's for the category of vehicle competing.
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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #543 on: July 18, 2014, 10:57:15 am »
More, more!

If you are unsure of any vehicle requirement etc, do this:
  • Go to the amageza.com website. If its listed there you can enter it.
  • Go to the shop. If its listed there, you can enter it.

Comply with all the requirements regarding your category of vehicle using the FIM Cross-Country Rallies and MSA Off-Road documents regarding your class of vehicle. MSA will always get precedence.

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If you miss the deadline on 1 August regarding your tracker rental, you will be issued a GSM (cellphone) based tracker and not a Iridium Satellite based tracker. The latter I have to order 3 months prior, so that ship is sailing 1 August. Nothing you can say or do can change that. The Northern Cape does not have 100% cellphone coverage, so at the very least we'll know where to start looking for you if you don't show. We have a map of cell coverage for the areas we race through, so we should find you. Your fanclub will just not be able to track you 100% of the way, neither will we!

Guys. Buying a meal package does not reserve a entry. You need either a moto-, or competitor entry with a tracker rental. The rest can be paid until 1 October 2014. If you miss the deadline you forfeit this meals you paid for, unless you sell it to a another entrant.

Email me if you are unsure. This forum is a fire-and-forget mission. I might see it, or a may not, dependant on where I am, but email I'll respond to within at least 48 hours dependant on where I'm stuck in the bush! Email function available on the WEBSITE!

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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #544 on: July 18, 2014, 11:22:31 am »
Ok, I'm having a boring/no work Friday so I looked it up - the number plate issue, that is.

FIM rule 080.7 says rules of the road of the country you are in must be abided by - so fit a plate

MSA off-road says zip about plates - not needed off-road as the only time we're on public roads is when we cross them at manned crossings - dunno about public sand roads ............

Looking at last years Amageza pics - seems they all had plates fitted - think I'll fit one!

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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #545 on: July 18, 2014, 11:26:02 am »
Alex, can you post the correct FIM & MSA regs on your site please.
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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #546 on: July 18, 2014, 12:08:19 pm »
Ok, I'm having a boring/no work Friday so I looked it up - the number plate issue, that is.

FIM rule 080.7 says rules of the road of the country you are in must be abided by - so fit a plate

MSA off-road says zip about plates - not needed off-road as the only time we're on public roads is when we cross them at manned crossings - dunno about public sand roads ............

Looking at last years Amageza pics - seems they all had plates fitted - think I'll fit one!



I don't know how many guys have a bike that they can afford to only run as a rallye machine. Making it roadworthy makes it useable outside of Rallies. I would make the bike fully roadworthy and licensed. That 450 in traffic on the way to work every now and again makes the smile go right round your head.  :ricky:
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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #547 on: July 19, 2014, 08:23:46 am »
Alex, can you post the correct FIM & MSA regs on your site please.
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The more admin you make me do, the more difficult the route gets.  :deal: At the rate some okes are going, you might be doing 3000km of roof this year!  >:D

Check under 'Description/ Important'
http://amageza.com/web/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_60&product_id=60

NOTE: We have exemption for the route for non-roadworthy vehicles. But if you get caught off-route on a chicken-run, then you're on your own. The exemption is only valid for routes applied for. Anything else is illegal.

You as a individual still needs to be licensed according to your engine size:
  • Bike: Valid learners/ International License acceptable.
    Quad: Car license or bike license to fit engine size.
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Re: 2014 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #548 on: July 19, 2014, 09:21:14 am »
Overlander, let us know where you'll be staying in SA leading up to the rally .............

Gents, thanks so much for your response.  I'm just finishing up here in Kinshasa (fork rebuild!) and will be heading across DRC to Lubumbashi/Zam/Zim/Bot before spending some time in SA.  Should reach SA by Mid Aug time so will have plenty of time to go riding and hopefully meet some of you before heading off to the Rally. Once in SA I will sort/test the Nav tower and other equipment Sounds like I can get by Malle Moto - nice thing about having longer service intervals! 

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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #549 on: July 19, 2014, 09:47:18 am »
I have a spot fir you to sleep in Kolwezi when you ride through. Have a small workshop if you need as well.
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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #550 on: July 20, 2014, 07:01:19 am »
My bike is not roadworthy as I use it only for offroad riding.
I do have a license for motorbike and the bike has head lights & brake light.  I will fit one mirror still. I do not have indicators ,number plate and hooter though and no intention of fitting those either.
I hope I am allowed to race like this, I dont see the Dakar riders using indicators and number plates or am I just missing it?
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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #551 on: July 20, 2014, 09:58:56 am »
I'd say the answer is no - reading the info on the amageza website

Best you e-mail Alex directly, rather than asking on a public forum  ;)
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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #552 on: July 20, 2014, 10:39:57 am »
Read Alex's reply above - he has stated months ago that bikes need not be roadworthy for the race routes and they were awarded a permit to this effect. Sad for guys who had specifically invested in roadworthy bikes but guess lucky for those like yourself...
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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #553 on: July 20, 2014, 09:02:56 pm »
When does entries for Support Crew close?
Same date as rallye entries?
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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #554 on: July 21, 2014, 09:30:01 am »
Read Alex's reply above - he has stated months ago that bikes need not be roadworthy for the race routes and they were awarded a permit to this effect. Sad for guys who had specifically invested in roadworthy bikes but guess lucky for those like yourself...

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Lucky me I guess. I will give Alex a call once I am back in SA to double check on this.

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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #555 on: July 21, 2014, 10:42:31 am »
You need a mirror so you can see the guy foaming at the mouth trying to pass you, and before he injures himself or you, let him pass or he can lodge a complaint with the Clerk of the Course and you can get a time penalty.

You don't need indicators if you have arms.

You don't need a license plate if you stay on route.

You need 1 litre of fixed water to your bike, and 2 litre on your back.

You need fuel for 275km.

You need a drivers license as stipulated on aforementioned website!

You need a MSA club license or temp one.

Other than this, you need everything listed on the entry form. The entry form is available for download once you paid your competitor entry. If you're not going to commit, then why do you want to download it?  :deal:
 

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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #556 on: July 21, 2014, 11:00:29 am »
Feck, I can't believe I am missing this one.  :xxbah:
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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #557 on: July 21, 2014, 11:08:51 am »
Other than this, you need everything listed on the entry form.

So big brass balls is on the entry form?  :peepwall:
 

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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #558 on: July 21, 2014, 11:12:12 am »
If I ride like a p--s, do I still need big brass balls?
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Re: 2014 Amageza Cross-Country Rallye
« Reply #559 on: July 21, 2014, 01:19:14 pm »
If I ride like a p--s, do I still need big brass balls?

Yes, as you will be sleeping in the veld on your ace, hugging your exhaust for warmth, trying to scare off cape cobras with your flare gun. ;D ;)
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