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Re: Tornado Owners Thread
« Reply #220 on: April 24, 2018, 07:02:13 pm »
I thought you lads would be interested in my correspondence with Veda Motors in Brazil r.e. the 293cc upgrade kit for the Tornado. I received this email from them today. This sales guy is super helpful. Just a quick look at courier, it's going to cost about R1000.00 so probably about 2k all in. Really not bad. I'm going to get a kit if we can work out the logistics.


Based on your information, we are pleased to submit to you the following proposal:
 

         Code: P400210101001
         Description: CYLINDER KIT HDA CBX/XR 293 79 mm, comprised of:
  Cylinder
  Piston kit (piston, rings, pin & circlip)
  Top end gasket set
         Price: USD 54.98                                                                 
         Freight: by customer
         Delivery time: 01 (one) working day after down payment
         Estimated shipping weight: 2.9 kg
         Overall dimensions: 18 x 20 x 20 cm

If you are interested in ordering this item, please kindly confirm the information below, then we may give you the instructions for the payment:

  First name & Surname
  Complete address
  Phone
  E-mail
 
Also, we have more items available for this motorcycle model, e.g. air filter, oil filter, connecting rod, engine valves, clutch discs, and a complete range of gasket kits. For further information, please visit our website: www.vedamotors.com.br and click on ENG for English version.

We are looking forward to receiving your order confirmation.

With Best Regards,
Giulliano Q. Parolim
Vedamotors Ltda.
Phone:+ 55 47 3411 0513
Mobile/Whatsapp + 55 47 9 9604 8611
Skype: giulliano.quemelo


Thanks for sharing. That is way cheaper than I would have thought.

So does this kit include the piston and cylinder and you reuse the rest?
 

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« Reply #221 on: April 24, 2018, 10:17:45 pm »
Yes, piston, cylinder and gasket kit. Nice thing is you still have your original piston and cylinder if this one is not good.

Shipping is more expensive than the kit.

To tell you the truth, I'm not 100% committed to the upgrade. On the one hand, my little bike is doing it's job so well and it's reliable and no fuss. Now I start messing with it and try turn it into something it isn't and just mess it up. I'll sleep on it.

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« Reply #222 on: April 24, 2018, 10:51:41 pm »
Yes, piston, cylinder and gasket kit. Nice thing is you still have your original piston and cylinder if this one is not good.

Shipping is more expensive than the kit.

To tell you the truth, I'm not 100% committed to the upgrade. On the one hand, my little bike is doing it's job so well and it's reliable and no fuss. Now I start messing with it and try turn it into something it isn't and just mess it up. I'll sleep on it.

So this is if I understand correct all you need (gaskets?) for a top end rebuild that every thumper will need at some point. Yes some goes even up to a 100k km (and more) but some only around the 50k km before they start loosing power and burning oil. So the way I see it, OEM part for a topped rebuild/upgrade at some stage will cost you even way more. The quoted price seems like a bargain and you gain a little power. If you are thinking of keeping the bike, it would be wise to purchase the kit and stow it away till you finally need it ...not?
 

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Re: Tornado Owners Thread
« Reply #223 on: April 25, 2018, 11:49:48 am »
Damn i am tempted to order one aswell lol

On the other hand the bike makes enough power for me as it is.   :sip:
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« Reply #224 on: April 25, 2018, 06:16:36 pm »
Yes, piston, cylinder and gasket kit. Nice thing is you still have your original piston and cylinder if this one is not good.

Shipping is more expensive than the kit.

To tell you the truth, I'm not 100% committed to the upgrade. On the one hand, my little bike is doing it's job so well and it's reliable and no fuss. Now I start messing with it and try turn it into something it isn't and just mess it up. I'll sleep on it.

So this is if I understand correct all you need (gaskets?) for a top end rebuild that every thumper will need at some point. Yes some goes even up to a 100k km (and more) but some only around the 50k km before they start loosing power and burning oil. So the way I see it, OEM part for a topped rebuild/upgrade at some stage will cost you even way more. The quoted price seems like a bargain and you gain a little power. If you are thinking of keeping the bike, it would be wise to purchase the kit and stow it away till you finally need it ...not?

My little bike only has 16000km on it. It's got a lot of life left. The only justifiable reason to upgrade is to fix an already frot one or for the performance gain. I'm busy weighing up the pro-cons of messing with a reliable tool in favour of a few more horsepower.

At this point, the more I think about it, the less it makes sense.

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« Reply #225 on: May 07, 2018, 11:49:10 am »
I couldn't help myself.....    :o

Anyway, I did a preliminary comparison between the Tornado and the Rally.    http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=196906.180

In short, the Tornado is better in some respects and the Rally better in others. Both able to do the job well though.
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Re: Tornado Owners Thread
« Reply #226 on: May 07, 2018, 11:51:46 am »
Did you buy it??
 

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« Reply #227 on: May 07, 2018, 12:12:42 pm »
Did you buy it??

Yes, I did. I've been drooling over it for long enough. 

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« Reply #228 on: May 07, 2018, 12:14:18 pm »
Did you buy it??

Yes, I did. I've been drooling over it for long enough.

Wow! Congrats man. So are you still keeping the Tornado as well?

Must say I also like the Rally quite a bit. How does it compare in pulling power for instance going up a steep hill?
 

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« Reply #229 on: May 07, 2018, 12:19:38 pm »
Damn that is nice
 

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« Reply #230 on: May 07, 2018, 12:25:33 pm »
Did you buy it??

Yes, I did. I've been drooling over it for long enough.

Wow! Congrats man. So are you still keeping the Tornado as well?

Must say I also like the Rally quite a bit. How does it compare in pulling power for instance going up a steep hill?

The Rally is better in pulling power, no question. I'd be curious to see in a drag which one wins though. With my Tornado configuration, I think it may chow the Rally up to about 80 after which the Rally will pull past, maybe. I'll know in time. I'm organizing a ride to my dads place on the 18th and then my mate will use the Tornado and I the Rally with some swapping in-between. It's going to infuriate him  :imaposer:  because he owns a KTM 1190.

I'm sure there will be lots of dragging and 'closing the door' on the route to my dads.

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Re: Tornado Owners Thread
« Reply #232 on: May 15, 2018, 04:40:27 pm »
From Honda Centurion. Price was about R350.00 or there about. It will take a few days to get because they won't have on the shelf.

Well, I was just at Honda Centurion and they wanted R560 for just an air filter. So I told them they can keep their filter. I was thinking more along the lines of R300 to max R400.

So any better suggestions as to where to get n decently priced filter?
 

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Re: Tornado Owners Thread
« Reply #233 on: May 15, 2018, 07:03:13 pm »
Try EMD racing, 0126671041. I get most of my spares from them.

Engen Garage, 3 Aster Ave, Doringkloof, Pretoria, 0157

Also Starline in Edenvale, 0114520532. If you have part numbers you can email them and ask for qoute.

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« Reply #234 on: May 15, 2018, 07:06:12 pm »
Try EMD racing, 0126671041. I get most of my spares from them.

Engen Garage, 3 Aster Ave, Doringkloof, Pretoria, 0157

Also Starline in Edenvale, 0114520532. If you have part numbers you can email them and ask for qoute.

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Thanks  I actually went to Startline first. They don't stock a filter for the Tornado and the XR125 filter that they stock is the similar, but slightly shorter.
 

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« Reply #235 on: May 16, 2018, 09:33:20 pm »
Now I'm worried when it's service time for my 250 Rally, also uses a paper filter. How often can one get away with cleaning them with a compressor (being gentle offcourse) ?  :biggrin:
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« Reply #236 on: May 17, 2018, 06:49:58 am »
Wash the filter in benzine. Works well and costs about R35 a bottle.
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« Reply #237 on: May 17, 2018, 11:10:01 am »
Now I'm worried when it's service time for my 250 Rally, also uses a paper filter. How often can one get away with cleaning them with a compressor (being gentle offcourse) ?  :biggrin:

Actualy looks like Startline does stock the CRF250L filter, but look at their catalogue to confirm  :thumleft:
 

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« Reply #238 on: May 17, 2018, 11:21:56 am »
Now I'm worried when it's service time for my 250 Rally, also uses a paper filter. How often can one get away with cleaning them with a compressor (being gentle offcourse) ?  :biggrin:

Clean it by banging it on the floor. You don't need to buy a new one very often. Should last 30 000kms in my opinion.
 
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