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Offline plaky

Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« on: February 11, 2014, 12:59:02 pm »
Has anybody heard about the new 1200GS LC cam chains breaking and destroying the motor. I have heard this from a mate and wanted to know if any other people have heard or experienced this. My LC has just over 11 000km and so far no issues with the cam chain.
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2014, 01:23:16 pm »
Has anybody heard about the new 1200GS LC cam chains breaking and destroying the motor. I have heard this from a mate and wanted to know if any other people have heard or experienced this. My LC has just over 11 000km and so far no issues with the cam chain.
I've been following this and found 3 verified cases
The guy on Facebook
Brother  of colleague
One on ADVrider. Com

It is interesting that no reason is given
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2014, 04:05:11 pm »
Do you know if they replaced the motor? I hope there is a recall as it will probably happen just when you dont need it, like on bike tour in the middle of the bush!
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2014, 04:09:52 pm »
Do you know if they replaced the motor? I hope there is a recall as it will probably happen just when you dont need it, like on bike tour in the middle of the bush!

I cannot wait for 2SD to get here.

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2014, 04:13:37 pm »
Do you know if they replaced the motor? I hope there is a recall as it will probably happen just when you dont need it, like on bike tour in the middle of the bush!

In the two cases I am aware off, they replaced the bikes.
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Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2014, 04:58:11 pm »
Has anybody heard about the new 1200GS LC cam chains breaking and destroying the motor. I have heard this from a mate and wanted to know if any other people have heard or experienced this. My LC has just over 11 000km and so far no issues with the cam chain.
I've been following this and found 3 verified cases
The guy on Facebook
Brother  of colleague
One on ADVrider. Com

It is interesting that no reason is given

Given that I am neither of the three mentioned above, here's my story.

On Sunday 26 January I was on my way to meet a friend for a ride to Tankwa Padstal via Katbakkies Pass. Upon slowing down for the R44/R45 intersection I heard a loud rhythmic tick coming from the engine. I decided to pull over, kill the engine and restart. I'm in IT, when in doubt, shut down and restart :joker:

Before I came to a complete stop there was a loud crunch and the engine died. I pushed the bike off the road and immediately heard something was terribly wrong even with the gearbox in neutral. I called BMW, bike was collected and I was dropped at home.

This past Saturday I collected my new 2014 R1200GS from Donford and have to say the service and support from both BMW and Donford was exceptional. Two weeks start to finish, disregarding the inconvenience of the incident, I'm impressed.

I did experience a deterioration of the clutch/gearbox operation shortly before the incident. It might be completely unrelated or given that the left hand side cam chain lives in the same cavity as the clutch, it may be related.

I will endeavour to get more info regarding the root cause from BMW. For future reference, if your K50 suddenly sound exactly like granny's Singer, kill the engine immediately.



Edit: Mileage at the time of the incident 9500km
« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 04:59:08 pm by Lord Knormoer »
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2014, 07:26:59 pm »
Do you know if they replaced the motor? I hope there is a recall as it will probably happen just when you dont need it, like on bike tour in the middle of the bush!

I cannot wait for 2SD to get here.

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2SD doesn't have to badmouth them at all , BMW are doing a good enough job on their own , I wouldn't trust this thing to go around the block .
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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 07:32:26 pm »
Exactly Dux, with this bike BMW tried to drag the Boxer into the modern era, and the performance requirements are just too high.

I differ with Lord Knormoer, if you hear the first signs of trouble, ride it till it is faarked. Or BMW will repair your engine, instead of replacing your bike.

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2014, 07:43:57 pm »
Bliksem Lord K, that's not nice at all.

Glad you got sorted.



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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2014, 07:48:03 pm »
Bliksem Lord K, that's not nice at all.

Glad you got sorted.

Scared the crap out of me, luckily I slowed down for the 4-way stop!

However, new bike, new adventures. I really enjoyed riding the previous one and this one has some upgraded bits. Cannot wait to get out :thumleft:

Edit: I did know that going for first year model with all the changes is risky. At least the brand and the dealer could back up the warranty and do so without delay.
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2014, 09:38:56 pm »
Exactly Dux, with this bike BMW tried to drag the Boxer into the modern era, and the performance requirements are just too high.

Quick, someone tell Porsche and Subaru that boxer engines cant be used in high performance environments  ::)
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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2014, 09:40:35 pm »
Exactly Dux, with this bike BMW tried to drag the Boxer into the modern era, and the performance requirements are just too high.

Quick, someone tell Porsche that boxer engines cant be used in high performance environments  ::)

You forgot Subaru :imaposer:
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2014, 09:47:45 pm »
Porsche and Subaru is too clever to use flat twins. :imaposer:
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2014, 09:51:09 pm »
Porsche and Subaru is too clever to use flat twins. :imaposer:

Thought you said Boxer? :lol8:
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2014, 09:57:29 pm »
Exactly Dux, with this bike BMW tried to drag the Boxer into the modern era, and the performance requirements are just too high.

Quick, someone tell Porsche and Subaru that boxer engines cant be used in high performance environments  ::)

But the Porsche and Subaru engines are not destroying themselves are they
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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2014, 10:02:52 pm »
Exactly Dux, with this bike BMW tried to drag the Boxer into the modern era, and the performance requirements are just too high.

Quick, someone tell Porsche and Subaru that boxer engines cant be used in high performance environments  ::)

But the Porsche and Subaru engines are not destroying themselves are they

25000 sold, 5 known failures mentioned which could be a parts or assembly issue. Let's round it up to 1000 in case some BMW owners kept quiet. That's less than 0.5% in a new re-designed engine. Added to that, all failed units was replaced under warranty. Me thinks not bad.
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2014, 10:05:46 pm »
I was not happy about the failure and still am not. However I think it might be a bit premature to form opinions based on the known cases.
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2014, 10:13:28 pm »
What2stront daantjie forming a premature opinion, Never!
 

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Re: Cam chain on BMW 1200GS LC
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2014, 10:27:42 pm »
Exactly Dux, with this bike BMW tried to drag the Boxer into the modern era, and the performance requirements are just too high.

Quick, someone tell Porsche and Subaru that boxer engines cant be used in high performance environments  ::)

But the Porsche and Subaru engines are not destroying themselves are they

25000 sold, 5 known failures mentioned which could be a parts or assembly issue. Let's round it up to 1000 in case some BMW owners kept quiet. That's less than 0.5% in a new re-designed engine. Added to that, all failed units was replaced under warranty. Me thinks not bad.

That is what you are aware of , and this is still a relatively new model , how many more won't give trouble further down the line , being in the technical field I got to hear about a lot of problems and I can tell you that I had no faith in the previous 1200GS and the new one isn't exactly filling me with confidence either .
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2014, 05:41:06 am »
Wow, some machines broke down. Shocker. Let's wait and see if it's actually 1% of bikes sold before worrying m