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HID, LAMPF issue
« on: February 12, 2014, 08:22:36 am »
I installed 2 HID units on my bike
The High Beam unit works perfect, fires up and looks great, low Beam seems to only fire up when it feels like it, after installing I tested it and it took 2 tries to fire up, but it worked. Now it flashes once and switches off and I get the LAMPF error, no matter how many times I try restarting it just does that.

So I did some searching and found the link below:

http://www.r1200gs.info/forum/15-accessories/3730-1-off-hid-light-kit-issues-3.html

They say a 35w and 55w unit makes a difference, I have several units at home and will see if I have a 35w and try that, I dont feel optimistic about it though.

They also make reference to a HID Canbus Decoder, What is this? Does anyone know what it does? Where can I get one and what does it cost? I also thought of installing a switch on the Low voltage side of the power wire to switch off and on if it doesnt fire up, would that make any difference?

I am not sure how the Canbus works and if it just stops providing power after the light has error-ed out??

Can anyone help?
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 08:24:56 am »
I had a similar problem and the hid unit was faulty.
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 08:44:37 am »
I had a similar problem and the hid unit was faulty.

I have a few units, I will try another one today again, but so far 2 of them seem to do the same thing, this one is worse than the last one though
I had them in my hilux before and had no issue there at all, and connected directly to a battery they work perfect, the CANBUS thing is what I suspect to be my problem.
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 08:56:16 am »
I have HID in low and high beam. 2008 model .Periodically the LAMPF issue comes up, but restarting the bike normally solves it. I don't like the HID on the high beam though, as you can't quickly flash your brights due to the HID needing time to warm up. So I'll be removing the HID high beam soon and putting the regular bulb in again. At least then I'll have a spare for the low beam.
 

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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 08:59:08 am »
I have HID in low and high beam. 2008 model .Periodically the LAMPF issue comes up, but restarting the bike normally solves it. I don't like the HID on the high beam though, as you can't quickly flash your brights due to the HID needing time to warm up. So I'll be removing the HID high beam soon and putting the regular bulb in again. At least then I'll have a spare for the low beam.

My Last GSA I had the same setup and same issue, didnt bug me too much. I prefer both with HID, awesome lighting at night.

Its more this CANBUS decoder that has me interested.

The first unit I had installed worked better, if it didnt start first time it would second time at leastbtu I decided to "improve it by fitting another unit, and now it wouldnt start this morning. "
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 05:33:44 pm »
What experience with it is that the Canbus doesn't like the current being drawn with start up... especially in the mornings- when the engine is cold... when I ride and at the second or third red robot I switch of the bike, and start again and viola!

This is a little slep, but the lightning properties at night, makes it whortwhile. . .
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2014, 06:33:26 pm »
check the lamp is not upside down, serious, happened to me.
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2014, 09:56:45 pm »
Same issue.
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2014, 07:28:22 am »
What experience with it is that the Canbus doesn't like the current being drawn with start up... especially in the mornings- when the engine is cold... when I ride and at the second or third red robot I switch of the bike, and start again and viola!

This is a little slep, but the lightning properties at night, makes it whortwhile. . .

This sounds right. 2 mornings now it wont start, just flashes and off, when I left work yesterday it started up fine no issues. So yes seems to be a morning thing.
The unit is 55w, I have a 35w at home and will try that one to see if it makes a difference, maybe less power required will actually work better.

I have to agree, on the bike, there is no better lighting at night, I will be doing the spots as soon as I get the bulbs as well  :thumleft:

check the lamp is not upside down, serious, happened to me.

Lol no definitely not, and I cant see that would make a difference

Same issue.
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2014, 09:10:45 am »
Same issue.
Ask GSing (Pauli) for some sound advice

He will tell you the same thing... cold starting, canbus doesn't like it -kicks the system out... he recommended to twist the throttle a little bit on start and to switch off the spots...

What experience with it is that the Canbus doesn't like the current being drawn with start up... especially in the mornings- when the engine is cold... when I ride and at the second or third red robot I switch of the bike, and start again and viola!

This is a little slep, but the lightning properties at night, makes it whortwhile. . .

This sounds right. 2 mornings now it wont start, just flashes and off, when I left work yesterday it started up fine no issues. So yes seems to be a morning thing.
The unit is 55w, I have a 35w at home and will try that one to see if it makes a difference, maybe less power required will actually work better.
Please let us know the outcome of your experiment...
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2014, 09:17:04 am »
Same issue.
Ask GSing (Pauli) for some sound advice

He will tell you the same thing... cold starting, canbus doesn't like it -kicks the system out... he recommended to twist the throttle a little bit on start and to switch off the spots...

What experience with it is that the Canbus doesn't like the current being drawn with start up... especially in the mornings- when the engine is cold... when I ride and at the second or third red robot I switch of the bike, and start again and viola!

This is a little slep, but the lightning properties at night, makes it whortwhile. . .

This sounds right. 2 mornings now it wont start, just flashes and off, when I left work yesterday it started up fine no issues. So yes seems to be a morning thing.
The unit is 55w, I have a 35w at home and will try that one to see if it makes a difference, maybe less power required will actually work better.
Please let us know the outcome of your experiment...

I havent tried switching spots off but I think the 35w thing might help, will definitely keep you guys in the loop

I found this : http://www.ebay.com/bhp/can-bus-decoder
Sounds like a Cap type of device, and was hoping somone knew something about it, coul dbe a solution.
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2014, 07:47:40 pm »
Hmmmmm, here we go again.
I had the same issue on mine and even when fitting a new battery this faulse light up HID thing was always there. Run it a while and all well.
The HID requires a full voltage to fire up. That is a constant 12.5 Volts at least.
This does not happen when the bike stands overnight and is started in the morning.
The voltage dips below required HID fire up and then fails to ignight and you then get LAMP on the BMW display.

Option 1 is to fit a good quality gel battery with that extra bit of kick in it.
Option 2 is the charger on every night to have a fully charged battery to start with.
Final option and no shit solution is to fit a second battery.
Since this has been done I have never and I mean never had a HID faulse ignition.
Whala.... Problem solved forever.
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2014, 07:18:59 am »
Hmmmmm, here we go again.
I had the same issue on mine and even when fitting a new battery this faulse light up HID thing was always there. Run it a while and all well.
The HID requires a full voltage to fire up. That is a constant 12.5 Volts at least.
This does not happen when the bike stands overnight and is started in the morning.
The voltage dips below required HID fire up and then fails to ignight and you then get LAMP on the BMW display.

Option 1 is to fit a good quality gel battery with that extra bit of kick in it.
Option 2 is the charger on every night to have a fully charged battery to start with.
Final option and no shit solution is to fit a second battery.
Since this has been done I have never and I mean never had a HID faulse ignition.
Whala.... Problem solved forever.

Thanks for the suggestions

Yesterday I swapped the 55w unit for a 35w unit that I had stored away. This morning it fired up first time no issues. Seems the theory of less power required makes sense. I will see how it goes with time.
Now just waiting for our striking postal workers to deliver my damn H11 Bulbs for the spots  ::)
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2014, 06:51:13 pm »
All lights sorted and it looks great, very bright

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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2014, 09:55:59 am »
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2014, 09:57:46 am »
Did I mention how absolutely awesome this looks?? Night time is no longer night time when I turn my lights on, anyone in front of me is going to know I am there
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2014, 10:58:14 am »
I think I need to do this....for those dark winter nights riding home after gym...
 

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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2014, 11:00:46 am »
I think I need to do this....for those dark winter nights riding home after gym...

Check bidorbuy or your local chinatown for the HID units. The other option is also LED Spots
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2014, 11:15:01 am »
Yes absolutly great @ night, came back from Whitecouch Saterday moring 00:30... with the low & high beam fitted with HID, I could see into the next morning...
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Re: HID, LAMPF issue
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2014, 11:30:22 am »
Yes absolutly great @ night, came back from Whitecouch Saterday moring 00:30... with the low & high beam fitted with HID, I could see into the next morning...

Yep, Now add the spots with HID as well, I think were into next week Monday Morning  :snorting:
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