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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #100 on: March 11, 2014, 05:12:27 pm »
Ok......................Mods move this to R & P................this is going to get ugly
That is such bullshit
This thread is not about politics
Its about some twat of a salesman misjudging himself in addressing people on his floor
Couldv'e just as easily happened to a shortpant wearing, khaki shirt boertjie with mud and grease on his clothes and sweatstains with old Hi tech boots and rugbysocks...............i.e ME!
Agreed 100%, at no point did he mention his race or play the race card, this is all about arrogance and poor service. If it had been a boertjie then there would have been a chorus of clowns that would attack the dutchman.
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #101 on: March 11, 2014, 05:20:06 pm »
Ok......................Mods move this to R & P................this is going to get ugly
That is such bullshit
This thread is not about politics
Its about some twat of a salesman misjudging himself in addressing people on his floor
Couldv'e just as easily happened to a shortpant wearing, khaki shirt boertjie with mud and grease on his clothes and sweatstains with old Hi tech boots and rugbysocks...............i.e ME!
Agreed 100%, at no point did he mention his race or play the race card, this is all about arrogance and poor service. If it had been a boertjie then there would have been a chorus of clowns that would attack the dutchman.
Makes one wonder if BMW realises the potential of selling bikes to the BUPPIES
(Black Upcoming professional entrepreneurs)
Maybe they're still living in the old SA?
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #102 on: March 11, 2014, 05:31:08 pm »
I have a deal going with our local BMW franchise . I don't go near then and they stay the fuck away from me  :deal:
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #103 on: March 11, 2014, 05:40:11 pm »
Seems like all the bigmouths who criticized Whyme is now deadandgone????
Just shows you heh?
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #104 on: March 11, 2014, 05:43:24 pm »
Wonder net hoekom word die hele strorie nou aan rassisme gekoppel , miskien sou daardie salesman dit aan n wit ou ook gedoen het ,en miskien sou n swart salesman dit aan n wit ou gedoen het so what rassisme sal altyd met ons wees kyk maar oorsee, die probleem is net dat sekere mense moer liggeraak is oor rassisme ,wonder hoekom
 

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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2014, 05:52:46 pm »
Oh boy! Now this thread is getting a lot of different angles
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2014, 05:54:46 pm »
Wonder net hoekom word die hele strorie nou aan rassisme gekoppel , miskien sou daardie salesman dit aan n wit ou ook gedoen het ,en miskien sou n swart salesman dit aan n wit ou gedoen het so what rassisme sal altyd met ons wees kyk maar oorsee, die probleem is net dat sekere mense moer liggeraak is oor rassisme ,wonder hoekom
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2014, 05:56:02 pm »
Whyme never mentioned race.
Neither did the salesman by Whyme’s own account.
So it was not an issue until it was mentioned here.
In other words it only exists in the suspicious minds of those who posted since race was mentioned here.
Unless Whyme confirms that there was any race issue, get over it while I look for the key that fits the lock on this thread.


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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2014, 06:02:20 pm »
Seems like all the bigmouths who criticized Whyme is now deadandgone????
Just shows you heh?
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I sincerely hope you are not calling me a bigmouth since you do not know me...

Yes I criticized Whyme since I still feel we never heard both sides of the story and the way he put it comes across as him baiting the salesperson - I may be wrong though.

Why on earth bring race into this now, is it just a play to get more support for Whyme (he certainly did not feel he needed to do that, and I for one never considered race, never new what Whyme's race is, and do not care anyway, and neither should anyone else).

If the salesperson treated Whyme badly because of his race he/she is an idiot, but only he/she will know.

I still feel this thread is pointless, and other threads like this too - a thread about real life bad service we are warned about is a different thing in my opinion.

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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #109 on: March 11, 2014, 06:11:01 pm »
Whyme never mentioned race.
Neither did the salesman by Whyme’s own account.
So it was not an issue until it was mentioned here.
In other words it only exists in the suspicious minds of those who posted since race was mentioned here.
Unless Whyme confirms that there was any race issue, get over it while I look for the key that fits the lock on this thread.


Yes please  :thumleft:

Funny how people of all races will pull the race card when they feel the need, even though the person/s most affected never mentioned race  ::)
 

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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #110 on: March 11, 2014, 06:12:46 pm »
Whyme never mentioned race.
Neither did the salesman by Whyme’s own account.
So it was not an issue until it was mentioned here.
In other words it only exists in the suspicious minds of those who posted since race was mentioned here.
Unless Whyme confirms that there was any race issue, get over it while I look for the key that fits the lock on this thread.





I kind of noticed you posted after the race thing was mentioned  :deal: :pot:
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #111 on: March 11, 2014, 06:15:54 pm »
Now let's all get on our uh horses and assume the BMW ou is a racist.... Ag shame

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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #112 on: March 11, 2014, 06:19:49 pm »
Now let's all get on our uh horses and assume the BMW ou is a racist.... Ag shame



2StrokeDan will argue that it is impossible since BMW does not have a racing history.

Had this happened at "Ready to Race KTM" then it would be possible of course.
 

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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #113 on: March 11, 2014, 06:20:48 pm »
.... I am lilly frieken white. You might even say I am the whitest white man in Africa. The only white man whiter than me is Carrots but that is because he has no soul.

But even I was treated with disdain at a BMW dealer and that had nothing to do with my colour, maybe it was "class-ism".... (Have been told I lack some). So dutchies from the East Rand/Millerton also get treated like twats.

But methinks he should have entered through the car side at BMW and not the bike side. The salesman on the car side are more used to black chaps buying their merch. I will take a guess that most of BMW's cars get sold to our darker brothers these days.

But even so, racism/class-ism is k@k. It hurts china, ek het ook 'n flippen binneste even though I was born east of the tracks....
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #114 on: March 11, 2014, 06:22:29 pm »
Now let's all get on our uh horses and assume the BMW ou is a racist.... Ag shame



2StrokeDan will argue that it is impossible since BMW does not have a racing history.

Had this happened at "Ready to Race KTM" then it would be possible of course.

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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #115 on: March 11, 2014, 06:46:18 pm »
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The tension is palpable.... who is going to blink first.

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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #116 on: March 11, 2014, 06:48:38 pm »
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The tensions is palpable.... who is going to blink first.

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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2014, 06:52:28 pm »
So Whyme stated his experience and his opinion.  Others feel he should vote with his wallet elsewhere, I tend to agree.

Race might have been an issue, but that is just k@k style by the person who spoke to him on the day.

I think both parties could have handled it differently. ( How are you sir x3) seems a little redundant imho, and Can I help you x 3 as well.

Moving on swiftly.... this thread has lost it's point.
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2014, 06:57:12 pm »
Today I (white) was helping a friend (coloured) who ran out of petrol - I pulled up at a TOTAL service station with an empty 1,5 l mineral water bottle and asked for R20 worth of petrol to take back to him

Kondiso (black) told me NO we do not fill drink bottles while he was filling up another motorist's (black) 20 l jerry can with huge sticker on that said WATER ONLY

My po3someter went from 0 - redline in a heartbeat - I have never experienced such blatant racism.

What should I do ?
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Re: BMW NORTHSIDE MOTORCYCLES What an Insult
« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2014, 06:59:55 pm »
Today I was helping a coloured friend who ran out of petrol - I pulled up at a TOTAL service station with an empty 1,5 l mineral water bottle and asked for R20 worth of petrol to take back to him

Kondiso told me NO we do not fill drink bottles  while he was filling up a black motorist's 20 l jerry can with huge sticker on that said WATER ONLY

My po3someter went from 0 - redline in a heartbeat

What should I do ?


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