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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2014, 01:39:01 pm »
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I just can not get comfortable with my LC on dirt, feel like the suspension is just not doing it, previous bike was 800GS with some mods on front suspension.
No problem on my LC although BMW is changing some stuff for me out of good faith.

Which tyres, riding mode and ESA settings are you using?
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2014, 02:35:33 pm »
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I just can not get comfortable with my LC on dirt, feel like the suspension is just not doing it, previous bike was 800GS with some mods on front suspension.
No problem on my LC although BMW is changing some stuff for me out of good faith.

Which tyres, riding mode and ESA settings are you using?
Anakee 3, single rider, Enduro, soft./normal
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2014, 02:49:34 pm »
Exactly, and that is why I am very interested to see this thing. To be totally honest, I've emailed Touratech and searched the web ... Seems like it is a real issue.

That is why I am riding the crap out of the bike, if it has to crack, rather while it is under warrantee né?

Or you end up in the RIP board né

He he he. Some okes can't read properly. Read the whole thread and look at my history on this forum. I'm open minded. I read the reports. I make sure I know what are real issues and what not. I'm open to saying when a bike is crap, even if I own it and don't want it to be true. But, I do monitor the bike carefully exactly because of threads like these, I know where to look for possible issues.

If everyone had to stop riding their bikes because some random dude on the interwebs managed to crack his frame, not a lot of us would be riding

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2014, 02:52:41 pm »
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I just can not get comfortable with my LC on dirt, feel like the suspension is just not doing it, previous bike was 800GS with some mods on front suspension.
No problem on my LC although BMW is changing some stuff for me out of good faith.

Which tyres, riding mode and ESA settings are you using?
Anakee 3, single rider, Enduro, soft./normal

I rode with the exact settings and tyres once and actually stopped thinking something's wrong. The bike feels very loose, at least it did for me. It got better when I dropped the pressure to below 2 bar. I also find that Enduro interferes too much and Enduro Pro feels more planted but on Anakee III's this may be challenge, just keep TC on.

In short, the Anakee III is not a great dirt tyre it has no lateral grip. Rated as 90/10 one should probably not expect anything else.
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2014, 03:19:58 pm »
How about rain mode for gravel and suspension on soft?
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2014, 04:03:02 pm »
How about rain mode for gravel and suspension on soft?

That actually works well for slow technical riding and the softer dampening improves traction.
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #66 on: April 10, 2014, 06:36:11 pm »
My pa het altyd gese: "Met geweld kan jy jou vinniger in jou poepol afbreek"
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #67 on: April 10, 2014, 07:31:47 pm »
My pa het altyd gese: "Met geweld kan jy jou vinniger in jou poepol afbreek"

En as jy jou VINGER gebruik dan gaan dit VINNIGER ! 😄
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #68 on: April 26, 2014, 09:16:06 pm »
Was at the dealer today and snapped some pics of the steering tube of their new '14 GS LC...


Then a '13 GS LC demo:


Doesn't seem that much different.  Thoughts?
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2014, 08:41:31 am »
If you look at het pic of the broken frame you will see  that the part welded into the steering head broke, not the weld.
If the modification is to the part (like thicker, which would make sense to reinforce it against the breakage shown in the picture) you won't see it from the outside.
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #70 on: April 30, 2014, 10:48:09 pm »
If you look at het pic of the broken frame you will see  that the part welded into the steering head broke, not the weld.
If the modification is to the part (like thicker, which would make sense to reinforce it against the breakage shown in the picture) you won't see it from the outside.

You're right, it's not the weld but the part itself.  I'm still hunting for any kind of verification that BMW addressed this.  Haven't found anything yet.
 

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« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2014, 05:43:55 am »
Got confirmation yesterday that the new 14 GS LC frame is indeed reinforced st the steering tube.  Instead of the old 3/16" flat steel cap it's now got a metal wedge up there.  If you ever took your bicycle's goose neck out and seen that wedge piece, its kind of like that.

Also, turns out BMW bought that bike back after all so Jason is whole.  Happy ending

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2014, 06:11:18 am »
Got confirmation yesterday that the new 14 GS LC frame is indeed reinforced st the steering tube.  Instead of the old 3/16" flat steel cap it's now got a metal wedge up there.  If you ever took your bicycle's goose neck out and seen that wedge piece, its kind of like that.

Also, turns out BMW bought that bike back after all so Jason is whole.  Happy ending

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Great news, glad he's sorted :thumleft:
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #73 on: May 08, 2014, 12:51:33 pm »
Delete stupid post.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2014, 12:52:26 pm by AMZ »
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2014, 12:53:48 pm »
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I just can not get comfortable with my LC on dirt, feel like the suspension is just not doing it, previous bike was 800GS with some mods on front suspension.
No problem on my LC although BMW is changing some stuff for me out of good faith.

Which tyres, riding mode and ESA settings are you using?
Anakee 3, single rider, Enduro, soft./normal

I rode with the exact settings and tyres once and actually stopped thinking something's wrong. The bike feels very loose, at least it did for me. It got better when I dropped the pressure to below 2 bar. I also find that Enduro interferes too much and Enduro Pro feels more planted but on Anakee III's this may be challenge, just keep TC on.

In short, the Anakee III is not a great dirt tyre it has no lateral grip. Rated as 90/10 one should probably not expect anything else.

Endiro Pro mode sets the bike up for knobblies.  It may well feel real terrible on Anakees.
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2014, 01:13:59 pm »
Endiro Pro mode sets the bike up for knobblies.  It may well feel real terrible on Anakees.

I use this mode a lot, and Hildr is on Anakee III. It would be better with knobblies yes, but it's definitely not "terrible". It's orders of magnitude better than my old '05GS with Anakee II and ZERO riding aids.
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #76 on: May 28, 2014, 10:13:42 pm »
Eric Massiet du Biest's '13 GS LC
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #77 on: May 29, 2014, 10:25:24 am »
Ouch, is this an American thing? I have not seen/heard about this one locally.
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #78 on: May 29, 2014, 07:13:47 pm »
Ouch, is this an American thing? I have not seen/heard about this one locally.

Ouch hope the batches we received here are different to ones recieved in us ............ :ricky:
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #79 on: May 30, 2014, 04:43:03 am »
Ouch, is this an American thing? I have not seen/heard about this one locally.

This guy is from France