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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #80 on: May 30, 2014, 04:44:21 am »
Ouch, is this an American thing? I have not seen/heard about this one locally.

Ouch hope the batches we received here are different to ones recieved in us ............ :ricky:

wishful thinking :)  I think all the '13's and a few of the '14's up to November but BMW knows about the issue now and will work with whomever has a frame problem.
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #81 on: May 30, 2014, 09:19:24 am »
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #82 on: May 30, 2014, 10:39:42 am »
Ouch, is this an American thing? I have not seen/heard about this one locally.

Ouch hope the batches we received here are different to ones recieved in us ............ :ricky:

wishful thinking :)  I think all the '13's and a few of the '14's up to November but BMW knows about the issue now and will work with whomever has a frame problem.

Now you see, thats my worry,,

If I had a 1200 LC I would be to scared to go on a dirt road with it,,, there isnt a warning light on the dash that will tell you "hey,, STOP, the neck is bussy to seperate from the frame",

What wil be the outcome if something like this happens to you on a long distance trip in a remoute area,,,
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #83 on: May 30, 2014, 12:24:01 pm »
Ouch, is this an American thing? I have not seen/heard about this one locally.

Ouch hope the batches we received here are different to ones recieved in us ............ :ricky:

wishful thinking :)  I think all the '13's and a few of the '14's up to November but BMW knows about the issue now and will work with whomever has a frame problem.

Now you see, thats my worry,,

If I had a 1200 LC I would be to scared to go on a dirt road with it,,, there isnt a warning light on the dash that will tell you "hey,, STOP, the neck is bussy to seperate from the frame",

What wil be the outcome if something like this happens to you on a long distance trip in a remoute area,,,

I did 10k on my 2013 and am now on 6k on the 2014. Since hearing about this I just periodically check for any signs of fatigue but it doesnít slow me down at all :deal:

Maybe I'm too stupid to see the danger :joker:
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #84 on: May 30, 2014, 12:45:49 pm »

Yip, and that is the main thing I like about a forum, if something like this pop up there is no exuse of you didnt know about it and if you already have the product you know what to do,

But maybe its only me, but if I know there is a problem, I stay away, I dont want to wonder in the back of my head if its gonna happen to me, specialy if I do a loaded trip, two up throw Mozambiek or any other neighbor country,,,
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #85 on: May 30, 2014, 01:41:58 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #86 on: May 30, 2014, 03:08:17 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,
« Last Edit: May 30, 2014, 03:09:34 pm by Jakkals »
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #87 on: May 30, 2014, 03:16:31 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Do you stand on your footpegs?
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #88 on: May 30, 2014, 03:18:30 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Do you stand on your footpegs?

Don't be silly. Yammie riders don't need to stand.  :biggrin:
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #89 on: May 30, 2014, 03:21:31 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Do you stand on your footpegs?

Nee oom Snuifie,, ek trust nie die alminium pegs nie en het after market pegs op, so ja nou kan ek op hulle staan sonder om te worry dat hulle gaan breek,,,,,amper iets soos risk management,,,,,,  :imaposer: :imaposer:
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #90 on: May 30, 2014, 03:22:44 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Do you stand on your footpegs?

Nee oom Snuifie,, ek trust nie die alminium pegs nie en het after market pegs op, so ja nou kan ek op hulle staan sonder om te worry dat hulle gaan breek,,,,,amper iets soos risk management,,,,,,  :imaposer: :imaposer:

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #91 on: May 30, 2014, 03:25:09 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Do you stand on your footpegs?

Don't be silly. Yammie riders don't need to stand.  :biggrin:

Hey hey ,,,,,,, Sometimes I also need to post when I enter a town ,,,,,,, :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
« Last Edit: May 30, 2014, 07:24:56 pm by Jakkals »
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #92 on: May 30, 2014, 03:28:20 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Do you stand on your footpegs?

Nee oom Snuifie,, ek trust nie die alminium pegs nie en het after market pegs op, so ja nou kan ek op hulle staan sonder om te worry dat hulle gaan breek,,,,,amper iets soos risk management,,,,,,  :imaposer: :imaposer:

Weise besluit :P

Watse kroeg sit oom Snuifie nou weer in ,,,,, dit is wyse en nie die duitse weise nie    :imaposer: :imaposer: :imaposer:
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #93 on: May 30, 2014, 08:58:31 pm »
Jis woolly :P

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2014, 05:37:29 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Will you refuse to use your ladder because you have seen on the internet, that some dude who you don't know had a ladder broken?
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2014, 05:43:26 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Will you refuse to use your ladder because you have seen on the internet, that some dude who you don't know had a ladder broken?

I am more interested in how and why. Both pieces of information are glaringly absent creating the impression that the bikes broke for no reason.
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2014, 06:45:03 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Will you refuse to use your ladder because you have seen on the internet, that some dude who you don't know had a ladder broken?

Correction,,,,, shouldnt there be a "s" at the end of dude (dude's),,

Well the pic's was here on the forum, broken frame, broken gearbox ext,,,,,,

I dont do brand bashing, and I realy like the looks of the LC, but , soos hulle in afrikaans sÍ, "waar daar 'n rokie is, is daar 'n vuurtjie" en ongelukig is dit geen geheim dat die Bmer glang lief is om foutjies weg te steek en nie daaroor wil praat nie,
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2014, 08:07:20 pm »
No it's not just you Jakkels.

But what if I put it to you that your front tire could burst at any time? No matter what bike you ride. And you could die because of that.

Now I put it to you to stop riding.

What if I put it to you a car could take you out? Now stop riding.

We have a risky means of getting around. We manage the risks. I also check my bike and trust the statistics. Statistically, more LC's are taken out by accidents than by failure of the front fork. According to the reports we could gather.

It does not mean I'm not checking mine...

True, the risk is always there but that is live,,

But will you step on a ladder if you know the ladder is cracked, or will you rather use the ladder without any cracks and the biggest risk is for the ladder to slip ,,,,  both have their risk, the one is just a more common risk ,,,,,,

Will you refuse to use your ladder because you have seen on the internet, that some dude who you don't know had a ladder broken?

Correction,,,,, shouldnt there be a "s" at the end of dude (dude's),,

Well the pic's was here on the forum, broken frame, broken gearbox ext,,,,,,

I dont do brand bashing, and I realy like the looks of the LC, but , soos hulle in afrikaans sÍ, "waar daar 'n rokie is, is daar 'n vuurtjie" en ongelukig is dit geen geheim dat die Bmer glang lief is om foutjies weg te steek en nie daaroor wil praat nie,

I actually find the BMW riders extremely vocal about issues and very interested to understand how and why things go wrong.

It is however difficult when all that is posted is second hand reports with very little supporting information. For all I know, the frame cracked during an accident.

Not that I particularly care.

And by the way, there was never any more info about that gearbox...not that I believed that particular story to start with.
 

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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2014, 08:47:40 pm »
In my experience with the Beemer scooter they denied the faults I had were a common problem or that they had any knowledge of a bike with similar problems. Even though their demo bike was standing with the same problems as well as both my mates that bought the scooters. Only when I brought them websites dedicated to the problems in Europe with the scooters did they agree to a trade/ buy back . They also stopped importing the model , but they continue to sell their existing stock ( lots I'm told by a little bird).

How can they continue selling a product they know is faulty? It's criminal . Devious.

So ask yourself then, if they know the 1200LC has a problem / problems they know about will they stop selling them. Not fucking likely.
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Re: 2013 1200 GS LC: Broken Frame
« Reply #99 on: June 01, 2014, 08:59:14 pm »
In my experience with the Beemer scooter they denied the faults I had were a common problem or that they had any knowledge of a bike with similar problems. Even though their demo bike was standing with the same problems as well as both my mates that bought the scooters. Only when I brought them websites dedicated to the problems in Europe with the scooters did they agree to a trade/ buy back . They also stopped importing the model , but they continue to sell their existing stock ( lots I'm told by a little bird).

How can they continue selling a product they know is faulty? It's criminal . Devious.

So ask yourself then, if they know the 1200LC has a problem / problems they know about will they stop selling them. Not fucking likely.

I am referring to BMW riders not the company.

Corporates are in it to make money, don't expect any more or less from them.