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Offline goonrider

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Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« on: May 27, 2014, 10:22:25 pm »
Looking into getting a tool/med/food bag.

I see most Enduro racers wear their bag on their hips. Why would this be more beneficial than locating the bag on the bike itself?

I know that if you mount the bag on the bike you change the C.O.G, but here is how I see it:

Option 1 - Bag on hips:

Pro's: Do not change C.O.G. of bike, thus bike can operate as designed.
Cons: with every "squat" you do, and during technical enduros you do quite a bit, you have 2-3 kgs extra that you need to "squat" each time.

Option 2 - Bag mounted on rear of bike:
Pro's: Less weight to heft each time you stand.
More weight on back wheel for traction.
Cons: Can change how the bike handles other than the extra traction possibly gained.
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 11:05:01 pm »
It can also fall off if mounted on the bike, or take longer to get to.

I'm interested to hear what the experienced and serious racers say.
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 11:17:01 pm »
I'm not the experienced and serious race but have found my wolfman enduro rear fender bag works pretty damn well. it's bolted to the rear fender and secured by Velcro and straps. It will fit my tubeless repair kit, motion pro mini tool set, leatherman, and thin rain jacket. Plus if done right you could secure your tyre leavers to it.

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Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 11:17:27 pm »
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2014, 06:16:36 am »
Personally I prefer to use a bum bag for my tools, etc. I'm used to them, as I used them when racing years ago.

The original tool holder fell off my bike on a trip in Lesotho earlier this year, a common fault with 640's. Fortunately I had my tools in the tool tubes bolted to my luggage frame. I had Pratleys & the original 640 tool kit in the tool tubes. The case on the tool kit chafed through & I had to throw away the Pratley's, as well as the tire repair mutie.

I went & bought a bum bag & now have virtually all my tools, including 3 tire leavers, wet gear, etc. in the bag. I can get my Garmin in there too when I'm not using it. It's amazing how much kak you can fit in these things! 

I don't even notice the bag is there when I'm riding, that includes standing, jumping, etc. It's also very convenient when you need tools, as they're right there. I like the fact that I don't have to worry about stuff being stolen off my bike in car parks, etc. I even put mike bike's license disk in there. I had it laminated.

The biggest PITA is walking around with it at the shops, etc.   

I met a fellow dog at the BMW dealership in Fourways & he also rides with a bum bag.

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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2014, 06:24:55 am »
Thanks for the feedback, I was also looking at the Wolfman bag that bolts on to the bike.

I have not seen anyone with a bag mounted on the bike at any Enduro Race, nor any of the guys that just did the ROF Quali.

So I guess what's good for the goose is good for the gander...
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2014, 06:31:07 am »
I bought the AXO tool bag. Like I said, it works for me.

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Keep it on one wheel

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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 06:47:02 am »
That's the sucker. I'm very happy with mine!

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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 06:56:15 am »
cool, thanks!
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2014, 08:50:31 am »
The biggest hassle of mounting the tool bag on the back mud guard is that it limits your movements in technical terrain. Often you have to sit far back to get traction. Also, if you bail on a tricky section and need to get back on the bike, sometimes (if the position is awkward), it's hard to swing you leg over the tool kit. A hip/belt type tool bag is the answer. It has the added advantages in that it can be taken off if you need to help another biker, it can be swung around onto your belly, so that you have easy access to your tools without having to take it off, and also to get to food/gels/snacks while riding without having to stop. Obviously, if you have more than one bike, you don't have to transfer your tolls, you just wear the tool bag.
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2014, 09:07:50 am »
The biggest hassle of mounting the tool bag on the back mud guard is that it limits your movements in technical terrain. Often you have to sit far back to get traction. Also, if you bail on a tricky section and need to get back on the bike, sometimes (if the position is awkward), it's hard to swing you leg over the tool kit. A hip/belt type tool bag is the answer. It has the added advantages in that it can be taken off if you need to help another biker, it can be swung around onto your belly, so that you have easy access to your tools without having to take it off, and also to get to food/gels/snacks while riding without having to stop. Obviously, if you have more than one bike, you don't have to transfer your tolls, you just wear the tool bag.

Thanks, also just heard from someone else about it being more in the way when you mount it on the rear.

So, hip bag it is!
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2014, 05:57:44 pm »
I have found when you mount a tool bag to the rear fender that the vibration tends to make the tools rub through the bag and against each other. If you have to mount stuff make sure you wrap it up to prevent vibration.
The best hip bag I have found is the KTM one.
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2014, 06:37:16 pm »
I have found when you mount a tool bag to the rear fender that the vibration tends to make the tools rub through the bag and against each other. If you have to mount stuff make sure you wrap it up to prevent vibration.
The best hip bag I have found is the KTM one.

Great, will look nice with my 300!

Price wise?
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2014, 07:50:25 pm »
I think about R600 to R700. I've used a few over the years but that one has worked best for me.
I recently bought some motion pro tools, they have some cool light track tools, check them out.
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2014, 08:48:12 pm »
Use a Yamaha bum bag with my tools in a Kriega tool roll in the bum bag.

That way I can also just use the tool roll on my DS bike if I want to stash it in the top box or tail bag.

Once you are used to a bum bag and backpack (Camelback) it feels strange riding without it.
 

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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2014, 09:55:20 pm »
Thanks for all the information guys
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2014, 11:45:42 pm »
Interesting about it (the rear mounted bag) getting in the way. I really have not found it restrictive at all, although I am 6'5" so my leg swings over with plenty ease and I have it far back enough for it not to ever be in the way. Again what works for me..
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Re: Enduro Tool Kit - where to locate it?
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2014, 11:29:01 pm »
Used to keep them in a 3l Mule camel bak with my water. I found that this started to tire me during more and more tech rides and so I changed to a 2l camelback and the Kriger R8 tool belt and while this took some time to get used to its now much better as I can access tools, supplements etc… without de-robing
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