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Offline Colyn

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #100 on: March 30, 2008, 08:17:52 pm »
Just curious ... how much time did you spend in setting the suspension up for yourself ?
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #101 on: March 31, 2008, 07:56:26 am »
none - took it off the floor and had a 2 hour test run
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #102 on: March 31, 2008, 09:09:59 am »
Oh I see ... and that qualifies you to make the remarks about the suspension that you made here ... interesting.
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #103 on: March 31, 2008, 09:13:23 am »
Oh I see ... and that qualifies you to make the remarks about the suspension that you made here ... interesting.

u cant adjust the front anyway
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #104 on: March 31, 2008, 09:23:45 am »
Oh I see ... and that qualifies you to make the remarks about the suspension that you made here ... interesting.

Yea it does qualify I think, he's an average weight rider, maybe slightly heavier. His remarks are based on his own experience and it is noted that he didn't set up the suspension. Besides as ICM said you can't set up the front anyway.
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #105 on: March 31, 2008, 09:54:19 am »
Darn ... and once again BMW manages to build a pure piece of crap. :(
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #106 on: March 31, 2008, 09:57:48 am »
Darn ... and once again BMW manages to build a pure piece of crap. :(

no one saying that Colyn...

but u do seem to be a stauch supporter of the marque ... some criticism of the model is not necessarily an unjust or unfounded criticism
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #107 on: March 31, 2008, 10:12:15 am »
Well I am a staunch supporter but not blind ... I have spoken to a few guys that had both models out in the rough and their responses was not like what I read here.

For me ... I will wait till they begin to run around in the country and then see what the owners say about the bikes. I have a good idea of what went into that F800 GS and it was some of the best brains in the BMW stable and money was not saved.

I would not be surprised a GSA model is launched later.  The reality is that only a small % of the actual buyers of these DS bikes actually go off-road with the bikes so the lack of "protection" is most probably purely an economic one ... and economics are a big factor for us ... with the rand dropping against the Euro from around 9.50 to 12.80 I am afraid all Euro based bikes is going to get a price adjustment ... not good news for me because my new LT is on the way and any % adjustment is going to hit me hard :(

PS ... I had a shit weekend and a really shit night so I am a bit edgy ;) ... ignore any blunt edges in my posts.
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #108 on: March 31, 2008, 10:15:14 am »
Darn ... and once again BMW manages to build a pure piece of crap. :(

i rode it on saturday and let me say all opinions aside this bike is most definitely, 100% NOT a piece of crap. it has it's issues, sure, but it's a great bike all round, I have yet to hear someone that's ridden one say otherwise.

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #109 on: March 31, 2008, 10:21:33 am »
My personal view is that this bike together with the 650 version is going to slice into the market at a spot where there is not much to oppose it. The 650 is a very good option for a commuter and the way fuel is going ... I wont be surprised if we once again see a bike explosion like in the middle to late 70's.

I have said it many times earlier ... BMW bikes are built in order to satisfy BMW car owners ... the gadgets and farkles are there because the BMW car owner expects them to be there and if you look at the sales of the BMW small and medium cars you can imagine that there is a hell of a lot of potential bike owners out there. So maybe the thoroughbred DS riders will find a few serious issues with the bikes I am sure the broad buyers public will not.
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #110 on: March 31, 2008, 10:31:28 am »
My personal view is that this bike together with the 650 version is going to slice into the market at a spot where there is not much to oppose it. The 650 is a very good option for a commuter and the way fuel is going ... I wont be surprised if we once again see a bike explosion like in the middle to late 70's.

I have said it many times earlier ... BMW bikes are built in order to satisfy BMW car owners ... the gadgets and farkles are there because the BMW car owner expects them to be there and if you look at the sales of the BMW small and medium cars you can imagine that there is a hell of a lot of potential bike owners out there. So maybe the thoroughbred DS riders will find a few serious issues with the bikes I am sure the broad buyers public will not.

the 650 is going to go head to head with bikes like the new transalp, the versys, the v-strom, etc.

i found very few gadgets and farkles on the 800 and 650 - they were surprisingly down to earth bikes
 

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #111 on: March 31, 2008, 12:17:56 pm »
I'm testing both the 800 and the 650 on Wednesday (all day long hopefully)

Thus far I'm a little in two minds. It is a very beautiful bike but for some reason I'm just not ecstatic about it
 

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #112 on: March 31, 2008, 12:31:06 pm »
Ya the guys at Rotax did a fine job - imho a road-bias bike

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #113 on: March 31, 2008, 12:37:23 pm »
Ya the guys at Rotax did a fine job - imho a road-bias bike

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the 800 or the 650?

if you're referring to the 800 imho i disagree. though it depends what you compare it to... it's more road biased than a G650 X-Challenge yes. but more offroad-able than a Dakar, except for 1 or 2 little niggles (i.e. put a bash-plate on)...

 

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #114 on: March 31, 2008, 01:40:50 pm »
but more offroad-able than a Dakar, except for 1 or 2 little niggles (i.e. put a bash-plate on)...

I beg to differ - more like a V-Strom (I must still ride one though - my opinion is based on looks and specs)

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #115 on: March 31, 2008, 01:56:52 pm »
like i said, are you referring to the 650 or 800?
 

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #116 on: March 31, 2008, 02:59:55 pm »
800 - well both 800s ;D
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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #117 on: March 31, 2008, 03:10:02 pm »
yeah then i have to disagree with you. after riding the 800GS (the proper one ;) ) it'll handle off road as well as if not better than my dakar.

the single DOES beat it at the super super low stuff though, where the twin threatens to cut out

but the suspension is better, the handlebars are better, the position is better, the balance is better than the dakar

 

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« Reply #118 on: March 31, 2008, 03:19:24 pm »
I stand to be corrected after riding it ;D
 

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Re: 800GS - launch report
« Reply #119 on: March 31, 2008, 05:52:46 pm »
yeah then i have to disagree with you. after riding the 800GS (the proper one ;) ) it'll handle off road as well as if not better than my dakar.

the single DOES beat it at the super super low stuff though, where the twin threatens to cut out

but the suspension is better, the handlebars are better, the position is better, the balance is better than the dakar



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