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Re: Advise on first bike and options - 125cc!?
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2014, 11:51:24 am »
I commute every day on my XR. Also the fact that I posted one for sale this morning on behalf of a colleague and it sold in 11 min, must mean they have what people want. As for longer trips.... At 70 km per h be careful where you ride, cars do not like you. Love mine to bits! 32km on a liter petrol.
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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2014, 11:51:47 am »
If looking at 2nd hand DR's what are their main problems to lookout for? Oldest model to look at and max kms?
 

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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2014, 11:53:38 am »
Know of someone who increased front sprocket with 1 tooth and cruises at 100km easy or slower and gets 45km/l
 

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2014, 11:55:03 am »
If looking at 2nd hand DR's what are their main problems to lookout for? Oldest model to look at and max kms?

They don't have problems, but now the price has gone to R18k - R22k.
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Re: Re: Advise on first bike and options - 125cc!?
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2014, 12:17:31 pm »
Budget... ahh yes. Such a lovely little bugger. Self employed and first bike combined pushes me towards the xr125. Can get a 2011 xr125 with 1100km for R10k. That's pretty good me thinks!👍::)

Good price. If you can be patient you can pick up a 200 Djebel for between R12K and R14k. I weigh over 90kg and could cruise at 110km/h with my daughter's one.

Same here way better bike for adventure riding. I till miss that little 200, was such a nice trail bike!
 

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Re: Advise on first bike and options - 125cc!?
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2014, 12:18:55 pm »
Only the swingarm. It has Got bushes and not bearings.....so you can just contact Le Cap and buy a set of bearings and DIY
 

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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2014, 12:20:04 pm »
Know of someone who increased front sprocket with 1 tooth and cruises at 100km easy or slower and gets 45km/l

On the XR125 ? I would not want to do that. Will load the motor too much I think.
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Re: Advise on first bike and options - 125cc!?
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2014, 12:23:56 pm »
Jean, if I read what you say, you should try and get a CTX200. Its been proven they can go anywhere http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=137240.0 and they don't go that expensive good secondhand, R15k - R20k.
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2014, 12:24:48 pm »
Know of someone who increased front sprocket with 1 tooth and cruises at 100km easy or slower and gets 45km/l

On the XR125 ? I would not want to do that. Will load the motor too much I think.

Agree, there is no way that one extra tooth in the front will give a cruising speed of 100 without labouring the engine, and then the clutch will have to be worked on pull away and steep incline....not a good idea.

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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2014, 12:55:07 pm »
Thanks for the advice guys, especially on the sprocket mod and various bikes. Will have a look around and see what I find. Feel free to let me know of any suitable bike you see for sale.
 

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« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2014, 01:07:46 pm »
Thanks for the advice guys, especially on the sprocket mod and various bikes. Will have a look around and see what I find. Feel free to let me know of any suitable bike you see for sale.

Go to t 'for sale' section and post a new topic

Say something in the topic like: 'Wanted - Djebel200/250 or DR200 or similar - budged: between 12 and 15k'

This is 0nly an example, make your own and make sure to mark the 'get notification' box
 

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Re: Advise on first bike and options - 125cc!?
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2014, 08:03:48 pm »
Jean, if I read what you say, you should try and get a CTX200. Its been proven they can go anywhere http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=137240.0 and they don't go that expensive good secondhand, R15k - R20k.

Thanks Jupiter, quickly looked on Gtree and only found 1 in SA for sale...must be good!

TVB. Thanks for the hint, will look at doing that!
 

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« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2014, 12:14:42 am »
TW200, ja die een met die groot agter tire


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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2014, 07:13:16 am »
TW200, ja die een met die groot agter tire


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A tw200 is no faster than a xr125
 

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« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2014, 08:47:59 am »
TW200, ja die een met die groot agter tire


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A tw200 is no faster than a xr125

Yes! Had 2 TW200's (for the wife :-) . Not a good buy for commuting. Lekker little bikes off road.
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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2014, 08:53:46 am »
I think I will go with that 2011 xr125, only 1100km for R10k, that's not bad. If I get bored after 6months, or the petrol price drops :lol8: I might sell and get a DR200, those look the beesknees!

Those with xr125's only had good things to say! :ricky:
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Re: Advise on first bike and options - 125cc!?
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2014, 08:54:31 am »
If looking at 2nd hand DR's what are their main problems to lookout for? Oldest model to look at and max kms?

DR 200 problems:

Rear swing arm pivot bush wear. Recognised by squeaky noise. Causes poor handling and instability (wobble). Replace bushes frequently with new OEM parts or once and for all with needle bearing conversion from xx xxx :mwink:

Dragging clutch: Bike will struggle to shift down without blipping throttle and try to creep when in gear and clutch is pulled. Caused by rusted steel plates in the clutch from standing for a long time. ONLY fix replace clutch plates - friction and steel.

Flimsy front brake: It dates back to the early DR200 and the 1980's. Whilst probably adequate back then I would rate it "underwhelming" by today's standards. Probably no real concern for a beginner and on dirt  it will in an emergency get help from the rear drum - which is surprisingly effective.
No fix available, besides using both brakes.
The rather lousy front brake features on the DR200 just like the CTX200 Bushlander and TW200 :-\

Besides the above (which IMHO is little) it's a nice solid little bike.

They came in three batches:
- 1985 - 1995 DR200 kick start

- 1996 - 1999 electric start cast iron sleeve engine. Various models for various markets. Djebel with large round headlight, carrier rack and round speedo; SE with small rectangular light and rectangular speedo

- 2000ff electric start SCEM sleeve engine. Both SE's and AGRI versions as discussed earlier. The AGRI has some desirable features such as the nice large headlight and some less desirable ones such as the cheap chrome plated steel rims and the garbage bin lid size mud flaps (which fortunately can be removed & discarded without much effort).

Pictures of the various DR200's and links to relevant threads there: http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=132980.0


BTW I know of a DR200 kick in running condition. It needs some work (see above) but it is fairly decent overall. R7,500

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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2014, 09:00:48 am »
Awesome link, thanks man! Will definitely be using that thread soon!

Will come back here or PM you when my time for a DR comes.
 

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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2014, 07:03:07 pm »
Hey ho! Got my xr125 and did a a good 60km with it.

Gets up to 80kmh quite quick and then to 100kmh without too much hassle. Beyond 100kmh it gets a bit windy.lol. Bike is really light in weight.

Another thing, stopped after trip and noticed an oil leak on the ground, put paper down to see how much.


Noticed there is a small black tube coming from bottom of carb to underside of bike, not connected to anything. This correct?


Oil leak from here.


Any foughts!!!?
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Re: Advise on first bike and options - 125cc!?
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2014, 09:26:12 pm »
Airbox breather pipe/drain.