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Offline J3THRO

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WR 450 Rally NL Design
« on: August 07, 2014, 10:02:53 pm »
Hi All

At first I wanted to do as much of the rally conversion myself but very soon realized it will end in tears.
So I took the advice of a couple wise old dogs and made contact with Niklaus Lutzeler in Woodstock. His company is called NL Design cc and he has done an excellent job with my bike. I would recommend him to all, he is professional and very easy to work with.

The first pic is the day before I started fitting my Safari tanks and realized what a nightmare the fuel lines alone would present never mind the rally tower, electronics etc.

I picked up my bike this afternoon and Niklaus says mine is nr. 15 already and I think his business is about to explode along with the whole rally scene in SA.

I will be doing a long ride on Saturday to test everything and feel how the suspension handles the extra weight and also to see what milage I get per litre. I have about 25 litre in total now and no idea yet if this will be enough for the 270 km range stated for the Amageza.
Some stickers will still be added too.

The bike is a 2013 WR 450 F
Just off the top of my head here is a list of the main extras:

Safari front and rear tanks
Rally tower + lights (NL Design)
Rally fairing (NL Design)
Oil cooler (NL Design)
F2R Road book
ICO
Voyager GPS
Custom header pipe (Scorch)

A word of the wise to anyone hoping to the same Safari tanks: Because my bike is fuel injected and the fuel pump sits inside the tank  (bottom left) ,it took quite some modification to the tanks , the fuel pump and the hoses to get it all to work. Again Niklaus did a superb job of getting over that hurdle with NO help from Safari. After loads of enquieries from myself and Niklaus I got the idea that they weren't really prepared for the FI models yet. They just made tanks that will fit those bikes without thinking too much about the details.

Big thanks to Niklaus from NL Design cc, Chris from Flying brick and Reynard from Scorch.

Please all input will be appreciated.
I am still considering to Moose or not to Moose + Niklaus is busy with a carrier to accommodate the water + tools + medical kit  I need to carry on the bike.
At the moment running soft Mitas front and back because my riding here is mostly sand so Choice of tyres for the big day still to be determined.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2014, 10:12:28 pm by J3THRO »
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2014, 10:07:32 pm »
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2014, 10:08:08 pm »
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2014, 10:08:45 pm »
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2014, 11:29:58 pm »
Cool pics J3thro. I'm stripping my wr450 07 model this weekend for a complete rebuild for Amageza.  I got the same tower still need to get all the other xtras. I was under the impression a std 12litre long range tank +safari 10 l rear tank would be sufficient but only read about the 270km range now...I suppose no chance for that on a carburettor model...you should be able to easily make it with the fi model though.  Can you share the no for nl designs would have to get hold of him for some fitments as I got my tower 2nd hand. Are you running an oil cooler in the front there?  Seems like I still have a lot of catching up to do....
 

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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2014, 07:44:13 am »
Eish, looking very good J3THRO  :thumleft:
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2014, 08:54:59 am »
PM sent luckyloo

Hope the fuel will be enough, gonna do long loop tomorrow which will include Atlantis dunes to get a better idea of consumtion.

Thanks Mark I am very happy
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2014, 04:15:32 pm »
PM sent luckyloo

Hope the fuel will be enough, gonna do long loop tomorrow which will include Atlantis dunes to get a better idea of consumtion.

Thanks Mark I am very happy

Well done! Lot of bikes coming together all of a sudden. I would have thought 25l would be WAAAY more than enough for 270km on a FI bike. It's not going to be all 270 in dune conditions, I wouldn't have thought, and even if it was, that's still close to 10l/100km. Surely a WR can't be THAT thirsty? Even a carb'ed bike?

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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2014, 06:03:21 pm »
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2014, 06:53:46 pm »
Cant wait to see photos of this bike with the sticker kit!

 

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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2014, 07:14:36 pm »
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2014, 09:36:39 pm »
As well as getting out of the way of the rear tanks, does the longer pipe give more torque?

Just wondering because the enduro KLX450 has a longer pipe than a KX450 and is supposedly more torquey ..............
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2014, 08:21:02 am »
Did a 260 km ride on Saturday.
Suspension handled some minor jumps just fine ; fuel looks like I will have more than enough as there is still at least 5 L left after the ride ; the pipe backfires a bit when I close the throttle but nothing too serious ; she feels n bit more responsive with the rally pipe and LOUD.
Top speed on the Voyager only 129 km/h , the standard clock shows 140 so I might drop my rear sprocket 2 teeth to a 48.
Gonna be at Eendekuil fun ride this comming weekend.
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2014, 10:56:24 am »
Whats the size of the front sprocket?

The extra weight + wind resistance seems to bog the 450's down quite a bit.

My semi-stock (DRD full system) 450x managed 160km/h on the gps with a flat rear tire and 14-48 gearing.
In comparison, washer's rally 450x could hardly manage 135: http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=144005.0
We both weigh about the same.
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2014, 05:36:15 pm »
Still standard sprockets 13 front and 50 rear.
I dont trust the Voayager yet just because I am paranoid and maybe because I am secretly hoping my speed is slightly more. Will take my zumo with next time to verify the speed.
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2014, 07:01:34 am »
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2014, 10:56:14 am »
I am running 14/48, think its a good balance  :thumleft:
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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2014, 11:16:45 am »
I see the majority of these conversions are on Honda CRF's and WR's. How much is a conversion like this cost more or less?
 

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Re: WR 450 Rally NL Design
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2014, 12:02:52 pm »
I am running 14/48, think its a good balance  :thumleft:

Thanks Scooter I will pick up a 48 on Wednesday and fit it for Eeendekuil jol this Saturday so I can feel what its like.

What top end gps speed do you get with 13/48 combo?
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