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Offline Pom17

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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #120 on: November 12, 2014, 07:50:00 am »
Sold my bike for R12000.
Repair bill was just under R20000. Conrod had alot of play. Valves piston and cylinder was shot. Bike already had hotcams conrod. Previous owner assured me engine was never opened with 150 hours on it


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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #121 on: November 12, 2014, 07:53:44 am »
2007 ktm 525 xcw on the road


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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #122 on: November 12, 2014, 10:59:40 am »
Well, for a total cost of R 32 000 it's still worth it.
 

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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #123 on: November 12, 2014, 11:21:14 am »
Well, for a total cost of R 32 000 it's still worth it.
True a good 2007 can easily go for 35k plus but if a bike has been modified (hotcams, non oem parts etc.) and not done well I guess one would loose confidence in it  :-\ Never understand why one would need extra power on a 525 ! Must say a big bore, hotcam plus FCR made a nice difference on a DRZ.
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #124 on: November 12, 2014, 11:43:09 am »
Lost all my confidence.3months ago did clutch and before that chain sprockets and tyres so seemed like a money pit. If i did spend 20k on rebuild with all the other cost im close to 60k. And thats the price of 2012 500 with 100hours on it or less


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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #125 on: November 14, 2014, 10:08:42 pm »
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #126 on: November 15, 2014, 08:01:55 am »
Het vir my n drz 400 gekry wat beter sal werk opi plaas maar mis alklaar die krag en suspension. Drz voel soos n donkey teen die 525.


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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #127 on: November 15, 2014, 09:26:43 am »
Hierdie tiepe ding kan met enige bike gebeur.
Kyk maar na Ganjora se DR650..

Moenie dat vrees jou beet pak nie Spokie.

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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #128 on: November 25, 2014, 10:28:46 pm »
trying out some rear fender and side cover designs..still need a little bit of black on the rear fender
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #129 on: November 29, 2014, 01:35:01 pm »
trying out some rear fender and side cover designs..still need a little bit of black on the rear fender

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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #130 on: November 29, 2014, 01:51:59 pm »
Wit plastic vanaf RAD moto
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« Reply #131 on: December 12, 2014, 04:08:04 pm »
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #132 on: December 12, 2014, 10:26:21 pm »
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #133 on: December 26, 2014, 06:18:38 pm »
Im finally happy with the look
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #134 on: January 12, 2015, 05:03:32 pm »
Over here: http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=162917.240 I cheekily chirped Andrew about his all singing, all conquering Amageza-do-anything bike with some lofty claims of my own!



This is honestly the best bike I've ever owned. I love it much more than my 690, which I loved a lot! It's just so much more fun to ride off road, and that's all I'm interested in. it can carry enough for a decent length touring trip, and it's perfectly comfortable on the highway too.

Just did 2000km, a month after Amageza, with only an oil and filter change, and the bike was just brilliant!




.... However.... Having said that, I had to ride 1000km home in a day from Namibia (almost all dirt) and it used about 300ml oil (on a fresh change the day before), which came as a bit of a shock. The bike has never used a drop of oil, now has about 80hrs/6000km on it and has been 100% reliable. I wasn't hammering it home, either. around 110kph cursing speed, with a bit at 120, and have quite long gearing - 14/48. Haven't had time to look into it any further, but will do a change and monitor it... maybe time for some rings, but that's a lot earlier than I was expecting it, based on overseas reports.

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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #135 on: January 12, 2015, 05:19:43 pm »
Hey!

You are now two ride reports behind!

What are you doing faffing about in here?

Get writing!
I wonder where that road goes? And that, has usually made all the difference. Appologies to Mr Frost

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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #136 on: January 12, 2015, 05:33:32 pm »
.... However.... Having said that, I had to ride 1000km home in a day from Namibia (almost all dirt) and it used about 300ml oil (on a fresh change the day before), which came as a bit of a shock. The bike has never used a drop of oil, now has about 80hrs/6000km on it and has been 100% reliable. I wasn't hammering it home, either. around 110kph cursing speed, with a bit at 120, and have quite long gearing - 14/48. Haven't had time to look into it any further, but will do a change and monitor it... maybe time for some rings, but that's a lot earlier than I was expecting it, based on overseas reports.

Still LOVE this bike!
Just keep checking and adding oil. If it eventually becomes too much of a hassle, redo the top end.

Changing to 15-48 will only drop the revs by 250rmp so there's nothing else that can be done to make it cruize "happier".
1000km in one day tells me you were sitting between 5500 and 6000RPM for extended periods of time and I've heard of 2008-2011 KTM's using oil that way.
RFS motors seem to cope fine under those conditions and I expected the issue addressed with the newer gen  ???

Edit.
I have done 750km in one day on my 2009 450. It was an ex-KTM race bike (had a hard life) with a top end refresh 50hrs ago. It used no oil.
Might be a matter of tolerances differing between bikes?
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #137 on: January 12, 2015, 07:08:05 pm »
The 2008 to 2011 XC4 engines came with really crap rings. Particularly the oil ring.  Not the normal 3 piece ring, but a one piece cast iron ring.
Widely regarded as rubbish.
That's besides the problems of the dual  sumps,  and oil transferring from one sump to the other.
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #138 on: January 12, 2015, 07:16:19 pm »
The 2008 to 2011 XC4 engines came with really crap rings. Particularly the oil ring.  Not the normal 3 piece ring, but a one piece cast iron ring.
Widely regarded as rubbish.
That's besides the problems of the single dual sumps,  and oil transferring from one sump to the other.
which is why I'm puzzled by his new generation KTM's oil usage
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Re: THE KTM XC DUALSPORT THREAD
« Reply #139 on: January 13, 2015, 07:40:04 am »
Even XR-L's, KLR's and other singles will use oil on constant fast open sections. Prod on your kick start lever and feel how much compression that 450 has ! At those revs some oil will eventually make it's way past valve guides and piston rings what have you. Stay of the main roads ans do the back country  :biggrin: Top end on these bikes should last at leat 200 - 220 hours at dual sporting pace before you need to change rings.
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