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Offline Clockwork Orange

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« on: June 14, 2006, 12:53:12 pm »
I was thinking that with the number of DS enthusiasts out there, that it is bloody sad that one of the magazine publishers have not thought to bring out a DS Rider specific magazine which could feature bike tests and shootouts, accesories, routes, destinations etc. Sure we do not have the same numbers as those damn kwats but if you look at the innitial cost to get your self rigged out with bike , kit luggage systems etc we make up a market with relatively big spending power with huge enthusiasm.

Are any of you aware of any international magazines focusing specifically on DS riding?
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2006, 12:56:18 pm »
Thought of the exact same thing last night while standing in the que at the shops last night...although.. one has to do the math...printing/publishing costs as well as distrubution... and you have to employ peple to do the work.. and the riding...it's basically the same as the forum... IMO
 

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2006, 01:02:31 pm »
The closest magazine locally I can think of is enduroworld.
Maybe we can persuade them to include at least a DS section?
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2006, 01:04:51 pm »
i would imagine that would be the only way to go....
to include a DS section in an already existing mag.

i still believe that the majority of DS bikes sold, are only being used as commuters/tourers, and not for what the bike is capable of, or designed to do. so maybe there arent really all that many DS fans out there
 

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2006, 01:06:12 pm »
They do cover DS things, this month is going to be a big DS one I guess, the super enduro and the GS1200Adv. Calling the 950Se a DS is a bit much though.

They do DS runs to Lesotho , E-TVL etc.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2006, 01:08:47 pm »
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i would imagine that would be the only way to go....
to include a DS section in an already existing mag.

i still believe that the majority of DS bikes sold, are only being used as commuters/tourers, and not for what the bike is capable of, or designed to do. so maybe there arent really all that many DS fans out there


I think alot of them will buy it because of the whole "lifestyle" thing. A bit like Getaway magazine or Teazers, look at places you want to go to but never do. :D There is a bit of "dream" factor in there.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2006, 01:13:39 pm »
Enduroworld at the 1200 launch

 

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2006, 01:15:28 pm »
I think the same goes for the majority of 4x4s out there, most people never use them for their intended use.
But then again as of late, that "use" is becoming more and more onroad.

I think people will still buy a magazine with DS content even if they bought they bike as a wishful thinking "lifestyle" thing.
see how they can pimp their bikes with all the accessories out there.

Another thing that is in a seriously sorry state in this country is aftermarket accessories for bikes.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2006, 01:19:55 pm »
I agree with Blouvark, Regardless of how many people that own DS bikes actually use them for what they are designed to do, in most cases there is still that "dream" as Blou mentioned, to get out there and ride it like it should be ridden. a mag like this will further fuel that dream and I recon that it will encourage more of these riders to get stuck in.

The other argument is that there are always going to be those folk that buy a DS bike for the "image" (for lack of a better word). Like the guy that buys a top of the range 4 x 4, kits it out with all the bells and whistles and the biggest obstacle the van is exposed to is the sidewalk at Sandton City. These okes are going to probably buy all the gadjets and mods that you can get for these bikes which creates a bigger market out there which means that in time there will be more products available at better prices. (supply and demand).

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2006, 01:23:17 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2006, 02:44:21 pm »
Enduro world is currently riding the Trans Alp, dont know if it will be placed in the mag but lets see.

Sorry KTM, BMW & all the others Honda is the first one :D
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2006, 02:50:52 pm »
There is nothing in the States.  The advrider people also complain about no DS mag.
 

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2006, 03:58:13 pm »
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Enduro world is currently riding the Trans Alp, dont know if it will be placed in the mag but lets see.

Sorry KTM, BMW & all the others Honda is the first one :D


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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2006, 04:01:46 pm »
Quote from: "accton"

Sorry KTM, BMW & all the others Honda is the first one :D


They will have a report on the 1200GS in this months mag.
The guys up in JHB are harassing Husqvarna to get a TE610 too.
Dont think Honda is the first. Sorry.
 

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2006, 04:08:57 pm »
did some research on this as I was thinking about starting one.

problem is that mags are funded by ads.

now if you do a DS only mag, you cut out the roadies and the skwats,
who is the majority like it or not.

so...a guy advertsing helmets & jackets wants to sell not only
to DS users, so he says no thanks, and the mag is dead.

bummer.

but now the insert idea sound like a plan !

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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2006, 04:27:35 pm »
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They do cover DS things, this month is going to be a big DS one I guess, the super enduro and the GS1200Adv. Calling the 950Se a DS is a bit much though.

 
When is "this months" Enduro World coming out?
 
Anyway, I would classify the 950 R as a dual sport. A rather dirt capable DS, but still a DS. It certainly is no track (mx) bike... its not a tourer... its not just a road bike. Bit of a silly bike really.
 
Where I think it will shine is the forest firebreak roads. My favourite riding terratory.
 

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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2006, 04:36:54 pm »
What a bike! Its got this sort of F-U attitude, I dont need to be a tourer or even practical, I'm the king of the hill.

They say its in major bike shops from Thursday, so tomorrow. I subscribed so will get it soon.
The article should be mean as it was the reason Gary Franks went to Ertzberg and entered the thursday race. He then used Riaan V Niekerks 250 to do the race with as the spot was open.
KTM sponsored jaunt on the beast. Should get a lot of pics of it in action.
Daryl wrote about it in last months edition as he did the promo vid in Lesotho but that will be nothing like this months report, I hope.
 

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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2006, 04:51:10 pm »
Jaco Kirstein is the sub-editor of 'WEG' magazine, he rides an 1150GS Adv and puts an article or two in WEG everynow and then. He also wrote a story about his trip to Nam in the lates edition of 'DRIVE OUT', nice article and pics, but IMO he made the trip seem tougher than it was, or he is a bit softer than I thought. Worth the read though. But yes, it would be nice to have a mag or paret thereof dedicated to DS riding, it is a huge market.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2006, 05:12:01 pm »
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Jaco Kirstein is the sub-editor of 'WEG' magazine, he rides an 1150GS Adv and puts an article or two in WEG everynow and then. He also wrote a story about his trip to Nam in the lates edition of 'DRIVE OUT', nice article and pics, but IMO he made the trip seem tougher than it was, or he is a bit softer than I thought. Worth the read though. But yes, it would be nice to have a mag or paret thereof dedicated to DS riding, it is a huge market.


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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2006, 05:12:22 pm »
..and we "average" normal, day-to-day DS riders write some of the articles. No pressure to impress anybody. Experiences/articles from us noobs and experienced/professional DS riders.

This is what I miss in the bike mags. The experiences of the real biker population, from noobs to experienced riders. People riding their machines, day-to-day and sharing their knowledge and experiences. Not people that get paid to write a glossy report on any particular bike.  

Maybe I'm just spoiled about the reports, whether Ride Reports, impressions of bikes, technical discussion/information, tips, mods etc, etc, on this forum.

Think about it. A edited version of topics from this forum as part of a DS inset. It could be the "SA Adventure Rider Insert".  What I learned and still are learning on this forum, I can not and have not found in any other bike related mag.

Only drawback is the additional effort this would require from someone to run/co-ordinate etc.
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