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2014 Dos Sertoes
« on: August 24, 2014, 02:27:35 pm »
Sertoes in Brazil Kicked off the first stage today, Speedy Gonclaves won the prologue, still waiting for the 1st stage results which will come in a few hours.http://www.webventure.com.br/sertoes2014/





Again no South Africans in this awesome race.  :-\

Really nice pictures of the first stage here: http://www.webventure.com.br/sertoes2014/galerias/fotos/id/1701/pag/16/

(Amageza photographers take note :deal: )



« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 02:29:05 pm by BlueBull2007 »
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2014, 04:20:00 pm »
I see entrant #21 is Jacobus Ernest Potgieter on a KTM 450 RR - What happened to him?? Did he not turn up at last minute??
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 04:33:59 pm »
Ja, that´s our Kobus. Last I heard his support crew dropped him so he decided to do another rally in Europe, cant remember which one.
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2014, 05:00:55 pm »
BB - I see from the stages they are quite short apart from stages 4 & 5.  Does not seem to be much mileage at all.  Is that because it is super technical or what??

STAGE     IL (km)         SS (km)      FL (km)      Total(km)
      1     40,5 km      155,65 km   20,06 km     216,21 km
      2     39,54 km    202,23 km   18,59 km     260,36 km
      3     22,20 km    209,86 km   128,39 km   360,45 km
      4     135,24 km  363,85 km    86,21 km    585,30 km
      5     223,57 km  335,98 km    85,89 km    645,44 km  
      6                     178,87 km    25,42 km    204,29 km
      7     54,38 km    125,88 km   151,96 km   336,93 km
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2014, 07:01:06 pm »
I see entrant #21 is Jacobus Ernest Potgieter on a KTM 450 RR - What happened to him?? Did he not turn up at last minute??

Kobus is off to race the Trans Anatolia rally in Turkey.
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2014, 07:04:01 pm »
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 04:02:27 am »
Hi Mark,

Yip, this is a much shorter rally that has been done in the past. Previously it was always 10 days, with specials up 500km long.

From VDG a Brazilian friend on Advrider:
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The main reason is budget reduction for participants and organization. Goiania and Belo Horizonte are two cities which offer better structuries, like aerports, hotel, as well as most of the participants lives around these cities.
Another reason, the organization has decided, in the first time o f the rally history, to explore the Brasil northwest region which the rally finishes in Belo Horizonte -MG, region of many tecnical tracks.....
By reducing the numbers of stages from 10 to 7, the organization decided to have short stages but more techinical.....
This year will work as a test ......according to the organization from now on the ideia is to have total of 7 stages.....which was, apparently, approved by the participants .....let´s see....
The first stage is to adjust the equipments, explaned by Du Sachs, techinical director....
The last stage I believe the organization planned to finish the stage on day light for people see bike car and trucks arriving .....it is planning to have a big party with a show.....




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This channel made a short film of the prologue: Band Sports
At the very end you can see a quad passing over one of those infamous cattle grids.


Some pics of the Honda boys from http://www.vipcomm.com.br/buscar/fotos/rally%20dos%20sert%C3%B5es%202014

Ike Klauman


Gonclaves



But it was Coma who took the stage today. Margins are still thin with 6 days of racing still to go.

First Stage - Aug/24th
Goiânia (GO)/Caldas Novas (GO)
Deslocamento inicial: 40 km
Trecho especial: 155 km
Deslocamento final: 21 km
Total do dia: 216 km

Not especially long this stage traditionally is for running the bikes in.

From the oficial site:
With 155 km, the first special test of the 22nd edition of the Rally dos Sertões was disputed on Sunday (24th) between Goiânia (Goiás State) and Caldas Novas (also in Goiás). With many bumps, the special stage was very strong.

 The Spaniard Marc Coma (KTM Red Bull Factory Team), who leads the FIM World Rally Cross Country, won in bikes with the time of 01h49min08s and is also the first overall, counting his time during the prologue, disputed yesterday.

 In quads, the Polish Rafal Sonik (Sonik Team), also the world leader in the FIM, was the fastest (02h05min00s). In the UTVs category, the winners were Rodrigo Varela and João Arena (Divino Fogão Rally Team), with the time of 02h07min02s.

 Coma, who was not satisfied at the end of the prologue on Saturday (he got the third place) had a good start Today. The Portuguese Helder Rodrigues (Team Honda HRC) was the first runner-up, followed by his compatriot and teammate Paulo Gonçalves. The Brazilian Jean Azevedo (Honda Mobil de Rally) was fifth in the special. Thirty-seven bikes competed in the 1st stage.

 "I'm happy because today my pace was good. But it is only the first day and 150 km is almost like a warm up. It is an intense rally, especially this year that the special tests are not so long", said Coma, who won the Sertões in 2010.

Bikes - 1st Stage
 1 #2 MARC COMA (KTM / KTM RED BULL FACTORY TEAM) 01h49min08s
 2 #4 HELDER RODRIGUES (HONDA / TEAM HONDA HRC) 1h50min25s
 3 #1 PAULO GONÇALVES (HONDA / TEAM HONDA HRC) 01h51min27s
 4 #3 JORDI VILLADONS (KTM / CASTEU ELF) 01h51min33s
 5 #5 JEAN AZEVEDO (HONDA / HONDA MOBIL DE RALLY) 01h51min56s


More really beautiful pictures (like the one below) here: http://www.webventure.com.br/sertoes2014/galerias/fotos/?id=1700&strBusca=&ordem=registro&qtdPag=49

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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 04:03:15 am »
Second Stage: Caldas Novas (GO) / Catalão (GO)
On Monday (25th), the competitors depart towards Catalão in the dispute of the 2nd stage of the Rally dos Sertões 2014. There will be 260.36 km in total on the second day (39.54 km of initial liaison, 202.23 km of special and 18.59 km of final liaison).
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2014, 12:54:22 pm »
Thanks Boys, Need me rally Fix!

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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2014, 04:13:05 am »
Day 2.

Special was shortened for safety reasons to 70km from 200km.

Stage one video. VERY COOL.
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Stage 1 quad crash. Not so good. Could not believe they basically left the guy behind, but my Portañol  is not great.  :P
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David Casteu via email (badly translated from french)

Monday, August 26 - Rally Dos Sertoes in Brazil - Step 2

David Casteu finished in 8th place at the end of the 2nd stage of the Rally Dos Sertoes in Brazil, played between Monday and Catalao Caldas Novas.
The stage was won by Goncalves before Azevedo and Coma. The provisional standings, David won three seats, up to 7th place at 7'37 "leader Marc Coma.
"The stage was shortened this morning by security and thought I could go back seats, but the track was very narrow and there was a lot of dust. It was only at the second stage and there are still big steps. I was still able to catch the two riders in front, but I could not pass them because the width of the track was only 2 m to 2.50 m wide and bounded by barbed wire. It was very dangerous. We're all in a good rhythm. Here, you drive with alcohol and it is not easy to adjust the engines. Lawrence was able to prepare a bike that works very well. Tomorrow (Tuesday), we still have a good step. "
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Stage 2: more nice pics from Webventure.

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Results SS2:

1º Paulo Gonçalves (POR) #1 - 45min37s
2º Jean Azevedo (BRA) #5 - 46min39s
3º Marc Coma (ESP) #2 - 46min58s
4º Jordi Viladoms (ESP) #3 - 48min07s
5º Ruben Faria (POR) #12 - 48min16s
6º Helder Rodrigues (POR) #4 - 48min28s
7º Ike Klaumann (BRA) #6 - 48min39s
9º Júlio "Bissinho" Zavatti (BRA) #9 - 49min11s
16º Guto Klaumann (BRA) #8 - 51min56s


Guys someone else has to do the updating, I will be away in the Amazon for a few days  :deal:  :ricky:
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2014, 06:37:25 am »
Can't believe how they handled the crash, no one even checked the riders vitals, just left him there, strange
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2014, 03:37:36 pm »
I hope the guy made it but I don't have high hopes. I think if he was alive at least one of them would have stayed with him.
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2014, 04:29:37 pm »
How do you get back to racing after seeing that rider lying there. They did contact help and left the local there. scary
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2014, 05:37:48 pm »
Eish, I can't find anything in the news feeds about that quad rider, but it didn't look good...

Third stage of the Sertões International Rally will be hard and technical
IL: 22.20 km/ SS: 209.86 km/ FL: 128.39 km/ Total: 360.45 km
"After another short initial liaison, the special begins on good ground with speeds varying from médium to high, alternating stretches of fine gravel and shale,” states Du Sachs, Technical Director of the Rally. It will be a very hard and technical special, with radar zones in this stage.
The special begins to get very difficult and twisty with farm roads and trails, with the last third being raced in a eucalyptus plantation with lots of curves and good ground. It will demand much navigation. This type of ground will continue on until the end of the special, -where there will be refueling. The final liaison will be 80 kilometers on an earth, however, very good road.

I wonder what "radar zones" are? Do they trap the guys speeding with radar? doesn't make sense, it sounds like it is inside the special...

Sam Sutherland's description of the race so far:
"This just about sums up my day today.... Some big old bull****, haha.
Made a nav error early in the stage then sat in dust the rest of the way.
It's a difficult race with many dangers and slippery terrain, tomorrow I will start back in the ...dust because of my mistake today, but the race is still early so hoping for some better terrain and less animals as at the moment it's a farm yard race down barbed wire fences in fields full of cows and horses! "


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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2014, 08:43:46 am »
Stage 3 - Aug 26th,
Catalão (GO) / Paracatu (MG) - 3ª Etapa
Deslocamento inicial: 22,20 km
Trecho especial: 209,86 km
Deslocamento final: 128,39 km
Total do dia: 360,45 km

Stage results:
1 #2 MARC COMA (KTM / KTM RED BULL FACTORY TEAM) 02h36min10s
2 #5 JEAN AZEVEDO (HONDA / HONDA MOBIL DE RALLY) 02h37min28s
3 #1 PAULO GONÇALVES (HONDA / TEAM HONDA HRC) 02h38min50s
4 #4 HELDER RODRIGUES (HONDA / TEAM HONDA HRC) 02h39min17s
5 #12 RUBEN FARIA (KTM / KTM RED BULL FACTORY TEAM 02h39min38s

Overall
1 #2 MARC COMA (KTM / KTM RED BULL FACTORY TEAM) 05h18min37s
2 #1 PAULO GONÇALVES (HONDA / TEAM HONDA HRC) 05h21min56s
3 #5 JEAN AZEVEDO (HONDA / HONDA MOBIL DE RALLY) 05h22min12s
4 #4 HELDER RODRIGUES (HONDA / TEAM HONDA HRC) 05h24min37s
5 #3 JORDI VILLADONS (KTM / CASTEU ELF) 05h26min40s

I see that Honda #5 doesn't have the see-through fairing. I wonder why......
I am really chuffed that Ruben Faria is doing well, after his big crash at Dakar early this year. I think he was lifted out of the infamous canyon by helicopter? And I'm rooting for Goncalves. I have a soft spot for him, after seeing how emotional he got watching his bike burn.

 

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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2014, 01:20:34 pm »
From ADV:
A real "Dakar" day today - 585km with 364km of special stage, they would have been away around 6 am local time - I think we will see fitness kick in and if overtaking is possible a consolidation of the KTM team on the track behind Marc.
and from http://www.sertoes.com/
4th Stage: Paracatu (MG) / São Francisco (MG)
On Wednesday (27th), the competitors depart towards São Francisco (Minas Gerais State) in the dispute of the 4th stage of the Rally dos Sertões 2014. There will be 585.30 km in total on the fourth day (135.24 km of initial liaison, 363.85 km of special and 86.21 km of final liaison).

Between Goiânia and Belo Horizonte, Sertões will go through five more cities. Three will host the rally for the first time: Catalão, Paracatu and São Francisco. Caldas Novas and Diamantina complete the route.

Besides bikes, quads and UTVs, the Sertões also has disputes in the categories of cars and trucks. There are seven stages, more than 2600 km. The dispute has 197 competitors in total from seven countries: Brazil, Chile, Spain, France, Poland, Portugal and the UK. In bikes and quads category, the Sertões will also be valid for the FIM World Cross Country Rally.
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2014, 01:28:06 pm »
From Stage 2:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/myozlZmQtk4" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/myozlZmQtk4</a>

and a link to a clip from Stage 3:

http://www.arco.tv/ftp/2014release/Release_ET03.mp4
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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 02:04:09 pm »
Fark that smiley must have shaken some shit loose! And how much air did num 13 get?!?! Insane speeds these guys do sometimes.....


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Re: 2014 Dos Sertoes
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2014, 09:31:30 pm »
I'm not really a car guy, but these guys look impressively and completely relaxed while flying down a tiny road..

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/w1TPh8oQz_E" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/w1TPh8oQz_E</a>

I see they have a Garmin Montana GPS on the dash. I scratched through the Special Regulations for the rally, and the organisers recommend (quite strongly) using a Montana. Interesting.....