Is the KTM 1290 Super Adventure too much?

[2StrokeDan]

In 1980, 100 hp was the upper limit for bikes and we were told that a 750 with 70 hp  was all we needed. 500cc was about the upper limit for any bike with off road aspirations. A Cortina with 102kw that could do 0-100 in 10 seconds was considered a fast car. There were people then that were also of the opinion that all that power and speed is unnecessary. Today a fast car is one with 300+ kw and a 0-100time of 4 seconds and even my wife’s little grocery getter will run circles around an XR6.

If the 1290 is anything like the 1190, it will still be much better off road than the S10, Explorer, V-Strom, Crosstourer and probably even the 1200LC. Combine that with performance to see off most superbikes and this must surely be the ultimate all- rounder. Or at least for the next year  or so.

The ultimate offroad bike is a light, well-suspended bike in the 250/300 class, the ultimate roadbike is a light bike in the litre superbike class. It should be clear that an all-rounder
that must do both well does not exist. When you start seeing off superbikes you give too much away in that direction, always a tar lover's bike.

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KTM has dummies for guys like you

Those KTM dummies are not conventional dummies , they are actually butt-plugs to stop KTM riders leak from the anus. It is true.........

[Wolzak]

They'll have Chris Birch ride it up a tame gulley, and all will ooze and drool at the bike's fantastic capabilities....... :imaposer:Thin

Brand awareness  Think about it, how far has KTM come in the last 15 Years. It is an Awesome success Story.

Aren't they mostly belonging to Bajaj?

Yes they belong (mostly) to Baja much like Ferrari belongs to Fiat.

[Wolzak]

2SD be honest, if Yamaha had build this Bike we would not be in this discussion.

[Coala]

vir n slag stem ek saam met Dan, maar dit is dalk omdat ons noord van 40 is en gewig en n haastige lewe n probleem begin raak. 

[Yupa]

It's still butt ugly in my eyes.

+1

[Roxtar]

Seeing that the best Japan can come up with at the moment is mild updates to the ST and the boring Varadero and Honda discontinuing one of the best DS bikes ever (AT), I am at least EXTATIC that KTM has taken on the role of pusHing the limits and giving us bikes that seem INSANE, much like the Japs did in the 90's when each each bike was crazier than the last and we had no clue where it would end............

BTW I am a huge fan of the Japanese bikes and always will be, but give credit where credit is due... GO KTM

[ETS]

In 1980, 100 hp was the upper limit for bikes and we were told that a 750 with 70 hp  was all we needed. 500cc was about the upper limit for any bike with off road aspirations. A Cortina with 102kw that could do 0-100 in 10 seconds was considered a fast car. There were people then that were also of the opinion that all that power and speed is unnecessary. Today a fast car is one with 300+ kw and a 0-100time of 4 seconds and even my wife’s little grocery getter will run circles around an XR6.

If the 1290 is anything like the 1190, it will still be much better off road than the S10, Explorer, V-Strom, Crosstourer and probably even the 1200LC. Combine that with performance to see off most superbikes and this must surely be the ultimate all- rounder. Or at least for the next year  or so.

The ultimate offroad bike is a light, well-suspended bike in the 250/300 class, the ultimate roadbike is a light bike in the litre superbike class. It should be clear that an all-rounder
that must do both well does not exist. When you start seeing off superbikes you give too much away in that direction, always a tar lover's bike.

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KTM has dummies for guys like you

Those KTM dummies are not conventional dummies , they are actually butt-plugs to stop KTM riders leak from the anus. It is true.........

You got me there!!!!!!

[Pom17]

Seeing that the best Japan can come up with at the moment is mild updates to the ST and the boring Varadero and Honda discontinuing one of the best DS bikes ever (AT), I am at least EXTATIC that KTM has taken on the role of pusHing the limits and giving us bikes that seem INSANE, much like the Japs did in the 90's when each each bike was crazier than the last and we had no clue where it would end............

BTW I am a huge fan of the Japanese bikes and always will be, but give credit where credit is due... GO KTM

  +1000

[Manic]

Thread nr6.

Kom ons kyk of ons thread nr 10 kan slaan oor die 1290 voor volgende Vrydag 

[Bundu]

Thread nr6.

Kom ons kyk of ons thread nr 10 kan slaan oor die 1290 voor volgende Vrydag 

  ek het al een oopgemaak, dis nou JOU beurt! 

[Manic]

FFS 

[Bundu]

FFS 

miskien kan ons hier tiete post, want die mods lees die threads en combine hulle duidelik nie? 

[Wolzak]

FFS 

miskien kan ons hier tiete post, want die mods lees die threads en combine hulle duidelik nie? 

Excellent idea.

[Draadwerk]

Tiete op 'n KTM thread- julle oumas sal nie pose dat julle fotos neem nie.

[TheBear]

You loose a lot of power doing 90 degree turns on the drive shaft with the transverse engine layout, once they go to a V layout like the Moto Guzzi maybe we will see a shaftie from KTM.

They have more than enough power to drive a shaft.  I seriously doubt that they will turn the engine to go shaft.  If Honda, Yamaha, etc. can handle, so would KTM.

[2StrokeDan]

All the old shaftdrive Yamahas and Suzukis had transverse engines. No need to"turn" the engine, and powerlosses are not that much with these sort of outputs.

Yamaha's V-max is an example.

[2StrokeDan]

2SD be honest, if Yamaha had build this Bike we would not be in this discussion.

The KTM 1290 is a magnificent motorcycle, but even if Yamaha had built it, it would still be useless for speeds in excess of 180, and it would still need fancy electronics to make it manageble to the average buyer.
It is still a magnificent bike though. Although in a useless way, like a 7storey kiddies treehouse built out of gold.

[Wolzak]

Tiete op 'n KTM thread- julle oumas sal nie pose dat julle fotos neem nie.

Hey Man ons het laaaank al nie meer Oumas nie.  

[Bensien]

All the old shaftdrive Yamahas and Suzukis had transverse engines. No need to"turn" the engine, and powerlosses are not that much with these sort of outputs.

Yamaha's V-max is an example.

Quite true. It is a fallacy that a shaft drive loses a lot more power than a chain. The latest shaft drives are close to a chain in efficiency and actually better than a worn chain and sprockets. If a shaft lost as much power as claimed, the heat it generated would cause it to melt.

The real drawbacks of a shaft are increased unsprung mass, which affects handling and suspension reaction and also adds complexity. A very powerful, lightweight motorcycle with a shaft drive also suffers from driveshaft jacking, i.e. the bike rises and lowers on the suspension under acceleration and braking. This is the reason why Laverda abandoned their V6 shaft drive race bike project.

[Manic]

Die manne se ballas alreeds te klein vir die 1190, so wie gaan die 1290 koop?