Author Topic: Is the KTM 1290 Super Adventure too much? (Read 4808 times)

2-Stroke · « **on:** August 28, 2014, 01:51:55 pm »

This is a copy of a poll MCN is hosting – http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/news/newsresults/general-news/2014/august/is-the-new-ktm-super-adventure-too-much/ – about the new KTM 1290 Super Adventure that is being released next year. It will be using the engine out of the 180hp Super Duke, but whether it will use all 180hp is unknown, all we know is that it will make more power and more torque than the current 150hp 1190. Let's see what Wild Dog says.

Pom17 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2014, 01:59:02 pm »

Although all that power does not make sense I honestly do not care. More power is always good in my books.

And if more power was a bad thing for dirt and people should only buy what they can manage and use to its full potential almost all would be on small singe cylinder bikes. Wheres the fun in that

Stoetbul · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2014, 02:53:19 pm »

It's still butt ugly in my eyes. Not even the power output will see me buy 1.

Grrrr.... · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2014, 02:56:06 pm »

Will say it again. That is not a DS bike... it is the two wheeled equivalent of a Range Rove Evoque.

the_BOBNOB · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2014, 02:56:35 pm »

the 990/950 sure looked a lot sexier $:-\$

2StrokeDan · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2014, 03:16:42 pm »

Considering how pap and underpowered the majority of riders found the 990 to be, KTM had to step up to the 1190.

Now the 1190 is also not much in terms of power, so the 1290 makes absolute sense.

Of course, it will soon also be found wanting, so I hope KTM is working on the 1600 V-4.

ETS · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2014, 03:24:32 pm »

20yrs ago 800cc was enough.......................
More is better-- lighter even better

BFG · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2014, 03:28:37 pm »

Quote from: 2StrokeDan on August 28, 2014, 03:16:42 pm

Considering how pap and underpowered the majority of riders found the 990 to be, KTM had to step up to the 1190.

Now the 1190 is also not much in terms of power, so the 1290 makes absolute sense.

Of course, it will soon also be found wanting, so I hope KTM is working on the 1600 V-4.

Agreed, I find that my bikes power is just not enough. Why can't the Austrians realise that we need at least 200bhp? And that's only just enough

Toors · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2014, 03:35:38 pm »

If I have to guess: it would have no more than 165hp but plenty of torque. It would have the same off-road mode of the 1190 that drops power on dirt to 100ish hp. So question whether it would be have to much power for dirt is mute...

So taken that the power for dirt is controllable then my answer must be - you could never have enough power.

Fully loaded (with 30l of fuel) it should come in about 235-237kg - and it would handle dirt and smooth single (jeep) track well.

It is a tourer (longer range) with the same off-road capability as the standard 1190 Adv - would have more "luxury items" to appeal to a more discerning market....

is it a DS bike? - depends on your definition of DS - as far as I am concerned the only DS bikes is the KTM 690 and the DRz 400...

2StrokeDan · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2014, 03:51:55 pm »

Quote from: Toors on August 28, 2014, 03:35:38 pm

If I have to guess: it would have no more than 165hp but plenty of torque. It would have the same off-road mode of the 1190 that drops power on dirt to 100ish hp. So question whether it would be have to much power for dirt is mute...

So taken that the power for dirt is controllable then my answer must be - you could never have enough power.

Fully loaded (with 30l of fuel) it should come in about 235-237kg - and it would handle dirt and smooth single (jeep) track well.

It is a tourer (longer range) with the same off-road capability as the standard 1190 Adv - would have more "luxury items" to appeal to a more discerning market....

is it a DS bike? - depends on your definition of DS - as far as I am concerned the only DS bikes is the KTM 690 and the DRz 400...

And a XT600E.

g1_ · « **Reply #10 on:** August 28, 2014, 04:15:48 pm »

Quote from: Pom17 on August 28, 2014, 01:59:02 pm

And if more power was a bad thing for dirt and people should only buy what they can manage and use to its full potential almost all would be on small singe cylinder bikes. Wheres the fun in that

What do you mean where's the fun in that? That's exactly where the fun is!

Give me a 450 with an adventure fairing and language racks.

mtr89 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2014, 04:41:21 pm »

Quote from: Grrrr.... on August 28, 2014, 02:56:06 pm

Will say it again. That is not a DS bike... it is the two wheeled equivalent of a Range Rove Evoque.

Yip,what he said.

DikZol · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2014, 04:48:29 pm »

Quote from: Grrrr.... on August 28, 2014, 02:56:06 pm

Will say it again. That is not a DS bike... it is the two wheeled equivalent of a Range Rove Evoque.

Very interesting comparison!!

Pom17 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2014, 05:38:16 pm »

Quote from: g1_ on August 28, 2014, 04:15:48 pm

Quote from: Pom17 on August 28, 2014, 01:59:02 pm
And if more power was a bad thing for dirt and people should only buy what they can manage and use to its full potential almost all would be on small singe cylinder bikes. Wheres the fun in that

What do you mean where's the fun in that? That's exactly where the fun is!

Give me a 450 with an adventure fairing and language racks.

A modern-day 450 is not by any means a tame and boring bike. Definitely more exciting than my, now sold, 800 GS

I was referring to small adventure bikes and not a racing machine

But I agree with you. Next bike will be the 690, maybe even smaller, 500, 530 or 450. Just have to convince myself that the extra maintenance won’t be an issue

DCR · « **Reply #14 on:** August 28, 2014, 05:45:17 pm »

These big bikes are getting out of hand. There is such a thing as enough and we're long past it. Now they are just vanity machines.

Offshore · « **Reply #15 on:** August 28, 2014, 06:30:46 pm »

There is not such a thing as overkill. KTM is well on its way to build a bad Ass reputation, they want to have the baddest hard core Bike's around and that is why they build it. Let's face it, everyone wants one. It is like the Mercedes 63 AMG, senseless but Awesome.

Bundu · « **Reply #16 on:** August 28, 2014, 06:54:45 pm »

Quote from: Offshore on August 28, 2014, 06:30:46 pm

There is not such a thing as overkill. KTM is well on its way to build a bad Ass reputation, they want to have the baddest hard core Bike's around and that is why they build it. Let's face it, everyone wants one. It is like the Mercedes 63 AMG, senseless but Awesome.

Power: I wonder if the 1200GS would be at 125HP if it was not for the Triumph and Multi...

nobody will be forcing those that can afford the bike to buy it, so all good

- the 1290 will also not be aimed at the mass market IMO

Mapog · « **Reply #17 on:** August 28, 2014, 07:49:07 pm »

Ek val deesdae graag. Wonder hoeveel ek met daai ding en al sy krag sal val.

En hoe gaan hy lyk na sy eerste val?

Dux · « **Reply #18 on:** August 28, 2014, 07:58:14 pm »

Quote from: Offshore on August 28, 2014, 06:30:46 pm

There is not such a thing as overkill. KTM is well on its way to build a bad Ass reputation, they want to have the baddest hard core Bike's around and that is why they build it. Let's face it, everyone wants one. It is like the Mercedes 63 AMG, senseless but Awesome.

Agree , and anyway it only goes as fast as you want it to

JonnyP · « **Reply #19 on:** August 28, 2014, 07:58:37 pm »

Vandag is als oor image, ons wil die vinnigste en mooiste kar, motorfiets he. Baie keer gebruik ons nie eers al die krag of accessories wat saam met dit gaan nie.