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Offline Weedkiller - Adie

roadworthy an enduro bike
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:48:45 pm »
before you shoot me.

I did quite few searches for the tread that had some info and a phone number to phone with the VIN nr but no joy.
Probably because I can not remember 'key words' etc etc.

me thinks the tread actually started with something else and licencing came up.

so any help will be appreciated. 

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Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2014, 04:00:46 pm »
What bike is it?
 

Offline Weedkiller - Adie

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2014, 04:12:26 pm »
At this stage it is a bit general but we are playing with a few ideas.  The current bikes are a 250 and 450 KTM.  Could end up with an extreme trip up the westcoast (sand sand sand) or one of the other 4x4 routes or the 'exits' out of Baviaans. or wherever a baboon can go. (or stupid like me)


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Offline Warren Ellwood

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2014, 05:48:25 pm »
The short answer is no.

It will depend how it was originally registered on enatis.

If I understand it correctly each bike built or imported rather is registered on enatis before we even look at it to buy and if it was registered as "not for highway use" it cannot be made roadworthy on the system.

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Offline Dux

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2014, 05:50:00 pm »
The big problem is how the vehicle is listed on the Natis documents , if it is listed as off road only then you are buggered .
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Offline Geriatrix

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2014, 06:02:11 pm »
I have been told by a KTM agent that the 250 Freeride can be licensed for road use.
Clinicians can contact the clinicians' hotline number on 0800 111 131 (for doctors only); and, in addition to 0800 029 999, the public can also contact the public hotline number on 0800 111 132. These lines all operate 24 hours a day.
 

Offline Weedkiller - Adie

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2014, 06:45:29 pm »
thing is on the tread I'm looking for they quoted a Pretoria telephone number.  You supply your bike's VIN and they tell the status 'Registerable or not'.

Based on the outcome of the phone call it seems as if a few dawgs got the papers.  :bueller:

One comment was that the guy 'took three months' to get it registered.

I'm hoping
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Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2014, 10:04:30 pm »
If it is a Yamaha WR450, buy a cheap but licensed XT250/350 and change your 450 frame and engine numbers to suit.
If it is a Honda do the same with a old XL,etc.
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Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2014, 10:12:11 pm »
I had no trouble getting my WR on the road. Just the normal test and all done.
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Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2014, 07:06:25 am »
Perhaps this guy can help?

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Offline lecap

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2014, 08:13:22 am »
Your local traffic department does have a counter with a sign saying: "Enquiries" (the word you could not remember? :lol8: )

Take the bikes papers (if you have) or the VIN (if you have).

If it does not have a VIN don't waste your and their time.

They will usually tell you if it's on the system. They will also be able to tell you what you need to get it registered. Please note they are not supposed to give info to any one but the registered owner so be nice and ask them questions which they can answer with "yes" or "no" which they will usually do.

If it is a Yamaha WR450, buy a cheap but licensed XT250/350 and change your 450 frame and engine numbers to suit.
If it is a Honda do the same with a old XL,etc.
And so on, and so on.

It's the other way around: Do not (NEVER!) change the VIN or engine number on the bike but in the papers. This seems to be possible. You will then (once the bike is running and road legal with regards to lights etc.) need to get PCC and RWC.
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Offline Dwerg

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2014, 08:16:20 am »
I only have a certificate of origin for my CRF. Will I be able to roadworthy it?
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Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2014, 08:29:49 am »
I only have a certificate of origin for my CRF. Will I be able to roadworthy it?

Same procedure. If it's on Enatis you can register, if not you can't. Depends on the importer / what they did. This is for vehicles which come from the factory with a VIN. If it does not have a VIN  and basically is not designed for "road use" (I think a Suzuki Ozark Quad would be an example at least I was never able to find the friggin' VIN ??? ) then it's a no -no
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Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2014, 11:07:02 am »
As LeCap says, I went to the registration dept with the papers for my WR250F and TTR230 and had them licenced for road use with no problems. Means you have to pay road tax every year though. Ian 
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Offline Odd Dog

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2014, 04:57:27 pm »
I had no trouble getting my WR on the road. Just the normal test and all done.

Me too had to fit battery supplied flickers though which were removed when I got home..
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Offline Weedkiller - Adie

Re: roadworthy an enduro bike
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2014, 05:02:19 pm »
BED NEWS for now.

Checked both bikes and can not find VIN on eNatis.  Ok, will have to make another plan.

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