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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2014, 11:33:42 am »
Ek was uiteindelik happy totdat ek my vrind se LC gery het, nou juk my gat weer, het maar 3jaar se staalborsel voorraad gaan koop  :P


Ek moes kies tussen 'n drie jaar voorraad staalborsels en die LC se saal.  Toe vat ek maar die LC. 

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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2014, 01:12:46 pm »
had the 1150gsa and loved the bike ...it is solid,planted,feels like it weighs 10kg in the dirt, handles awesome ,could do bits n pieces maintenance put 130k on it but needed clutch n bearings and quote like 60 to 70k to keep on road so got 1200gsa... love the 1200 to be sure but regret trading evryday ..1200 plastic, quicker ,handles really well on tar and doesnt have that solid feel and not as light and nimb;le as the 1150 in bit of dirt i done..
to be honest i dont like doing serious dirt on the 1200 hence the drz 400 i purchased..nother story but frig i love that bike big time
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2014, 08:13:58 am »
1150 gs or gsa owners created this ledgend status to try to sell there bikes for silly amounts.Owned a 1100gs,going to a1150 was moving sideways not forwards so got a 1200GSA.

So instead of sideways, you went backwards?
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2014, 08:48:52 am »
Oh and to answer the original question:....
The 1150 GSA has legend status that the 1200 will never have.  :thumleft:  :thumleft:
Would you rather ride a legend or something every Tom, Dick or Harry is riding ? ?
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2014, 09:19:23 am »
Was looking for a 1150 when I had the molas. However I could not find one for sale so I ended up with a 2005 1200. For me it is the ride height, comfort and weight of the 1150 that makes it so appealing. Now I have my 1200 and must say, as you know, its not too far off the 1150 as electronics are basic and it is really easy to work on. Thing is, on a new bike I will not touch any thing were with the older that is out of guarantees it is much easier to convince yourself t9o stick your hand out and get dirty.
 

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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2014, 08:36:39 pm »
I also have asked that question - what makes the 1150GSA (it seems rather than the GS) such a legend? What gives it legend status?So far, all answer that I can find is that it's an emotional thing, it's got soul, or something  :pot:

I think reliability and maintenance its much of a muchness, with the 1150 being little simpler. With the 1200 you get a bit newer bike at good price. I test rode a few and liked it. But I got on the 1150 and loved it.

Legend status... I don't know, but its about the bike. I had a 1200GSA and disliked it from the word go. Got the 1150GSA few years later and its different bikes.

To me the 1150GSA is just and all round superior bike.


that's entirely valid, I would just like to know how an R1150GSA rides more lekker than a R1200GS. I struggle to understand this
For starters, the 1150 has different steering geometry to the 1200's, which results in different handling.
Not much, but sufficient to make a difference.
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2014, 06:11:28 pm »
I also have asked that question - what makes the 1150GSA (it seems rather than the GS) such a legend? What gives it legend status?So far, all answer that I can find is that it's an emotional thing, it's got soul, or something  :pot:

I think reliability and maintenance its much of a muchness, with the 1150 being little simpler. With the 1200 you get a bit newer bike at good price. I test rode a few and liked it. But I got on the 1150 and loved it.

Legend status... I don't know, but its about the bike. I had a 1200GSA and disliked it from the word go. Got the 1150GSA few years later and its different bikes.

To me the 1150GSA is just and all round superior bike.


that's entirely valid, I would just like to know how an R1150GSA rides more lekker than a R1200GS. I struggle to understand this
For starters, the 1150 has different steering geometry to the 1200's, which results in different handling.
Not much, but sufficient to make a difference.
Cheers
Chris

I've heard about this, the rake angle or something has been changed, which improves tar handling, but not dirt. Does it make a noticeable difference?
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2014, 09:32:38 pm »
I also have asked that question - what makes the 1150GSA (it seems rather than the GS) such a legend? What gives it legend status?So far, all answer that I can find is that it's an emotional thing, it's got soul, or something  :pot:

I owned a Ural 650 Solo......Now that's got soul. And it also put's a smile on your face......

I've owned both the 1150 GS and 1200 GS. Never had any problems with the 1200's. The 1150 on the other hand.......ABS problems galore.

The 1150 GS is okay if you really can't afford a 1200. The 1150 is heavy and really feels very dated. It is also a lot slower. Overall the 1200 is a much better and complete package. The other BIG advantage is spares availability.

I guess its a matter of "You makes your choice and you pays your money"
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2014, 09:40:55 pm »
I also have asked that question - what makes the 1150GSA (it seems rather than the GS) such a legend? What gives it legend status?So far, all answer that I can find is that it's an emotional thing, it's got soul, or something  :pot:

I owned a Ural 650 Solo......Now that's got soul. And it also put's a smile on your face......

I've owned both the 1150 GS and 1200 GS. Never had any problems with the 1200's. The 1150 on the other hand.......ABS problems galore.

The 1150 GS is okay if you really can't afford a 1200. The 1150 is heavy and really feels very dated. It is also a lot slower. Overall the 1200 is a much better and complete package. The other BIG advantage is spares availability.

I guess its a matter of "You makes your choice and you pays your money"

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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2014, 03:02:08 am »
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2014, 08:06:14 am »
I also have asked that question - what makes the 1150GSA (it seems rather than the GS) such a legend? What gives it legend status?So far, all answer that I can find is that it's an emotional thing, it's got soul, or something  :pot:

I think reliability and maintenance its much of a muchness, with the 1150 being little simpler. With the 1200 you get a bit newer bike at good price. I test rode a few and liked it. But I got on the 1150 and loved it.

Legend status... I don't know, but its about the bike. I had a 1200GSA and disliked it from the word go. Got the 1150GSA few years later and its different bikes.

To me the 1150GSA is just and all round superior bike.


that's entirely valid, I would just like to know how an R1150GSA rides more lekker than a R1200GS. I struggle to understand this
For starters, the 1150 has different steering geometry to the 1200's, which results in different handling.
Not much, but sufficient to make a difference.
Cheers
Chris
Rake angles of different BMW models, for those who are interested:
1150 GS/A: 64 degrees
1200 GS/A: 63 degrees
HP 2          : 60 degrees
1200 LC    : 64 degrees - so LC rake angle has changed - 'relaxed' by 1 degree - over the 1200 Oil-cooled. Steering damper added.
650 X Chall: 63 degrees
G450 X      : 63 degrees

So, it seems the more 'enduro' the bike, the steeper the steering rake, confirmed by MX bikes, etc.
Obviously, wheel-base length ALSO plays a role, but interesting reading, none-the-less.
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2014, 08:26:54 am »
Give me a pig anyday
Its all steel  ....no plastic for me ....no suree bob
Its easy and uncomplicated. .....I hate black boxes
It has presence. ....dont know why , but it does.
Pig riders are down to earth all round good guys ......no posers here.
Pig final drives are easy to overhaul ....try overhaul a 1200 fd   :o
Pigs are old school ....I like old school.

Believe me ....If I wanted a 1200 , l could have one.....but I will never trade my Pig.
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2014, 10:13:25 am »
Give me a pig anyday
Its all steel  ....no plastic for me ....no suree bob
Its easy and uncomplicated. .....I hate black boxes
It has presence. ....dont know why , but it does.
Pig riders are down to earth all round good guys ......no posers here.
Pig final drives are easy to overhaul ....try overhaul a 1200 fd   :o
Pigs are old school ....I like old school.

Believe me ....If I wanted a 1200 , l could have one.....but I will never trade my Pig.
... and they come in Blue & White, Mandarin Orange, and.... a new color, 'Late Nite Red'..., best enjoyed with a glass or two bottle or three of Merlot...
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« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2014, 10:35:08 am »
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Geess ...I'm never going to live that down............ :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2014, 10:37:37 am »
Give me a pig anyday
Its all steel  ....no plastic for me ....no suree bob
Its easy and uncomplicated. .....I hate black boxes
It has presence. ....dont know why , but it does.
Pig riders are down to earth all round good guys ......no posers here.
Pig final drives are easy to overhaul ....try overhaul a 1200 fd   :o
Pigs are old school ....I like old school.

Believe me ....If I wanted a 1200 , l could have one.....but I will never trade my Pig.
... and they come in Blue & White, Mandarin Orange, and.... a new color, 'Late Nite Red'..., best enjoyed with a glass or two bottle or three of Merlot...
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2014, 01:50:56 pm »
I also have asked that question - what makes the 1150GSA (it seems rather than the GS) such a legend? What gives it legend status?So far, all answer that I can find is that it's an emotional thing, it's got soul, or something  :pot:

I owned a Ural 650 Solo......Now that's got soul. And it also put's a smile on your face......

I've owned both the 1150 GS and 1200 GS. Never had any problems with the 1200's. The 1150 on the other hand.......ABS problems galore.

The 1150 GS is okay if you really can't afford a 1200. The 1150 is heavy and really feels very dated. It is also a lot slower. Overall the 1200 is a much better and complete package. The other BIG advantage is spares availability.

I guess its a matter of "You makes your choice and you pays your money"

 :biggrin:

If that's what you need, keep telling yourself that.

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« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2014, 09:16:41 pm »
Why does it become an issue of if you can afford it or not ?  Why can't I ride the bike I enjoy ?

2004 1150 GSA's command better prices than 2005 1200's .Why ?
Every man and his dog now has a 1200 - 1150's are the real thing.

Plus, you get to meet and hang out with super cool, like minded individuals who don't give a rats bum about owning a new LC , WANT to sleep on the ground next to their bikes that are loaded like a Pakistani trader's
Tata truck, as long as they are in the company of their mates , who just like them can't afford a LC but will ride 800 to 1000 km over a week-end to buy their fellow members of the pig clan a drink and have a jol.

And at Beestekraal Station two weeks ago there were 1150's that are now over 10 years old and are clearly  built to last , with better materials than any new GS , and in showroom condition .

And if you have a 1200 , good luck and enjoy, you bought it , pay for it, maintain it, insure it - who am I to criticise your choice ?



   
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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2014, 08:43:25 am »

Dit werk so:

Jy het 'n 1150, maar nie geld vir 'n 1200 nie ... dan het die 1150 "soul".
Jy het 'n 1200, maar ni egeld vir 'n 1200LC nie ... dan het die 1200 "soul"
Jy het 'n GS, maar nie geld vir 'n GSA nie .... dan het die GS "soul".

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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2014, 10:06:15 am »
biking should be about riding and enjoying YOUR bike and not suck enjoyment from the status your bike gives you over another biker  :peepwall: .

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Re: R1200GS VS R1150GS
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2014, 04:30:48 pm »
Manne dis nie wat jy ry nie, maar waarheen en saam met wie!!