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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2014, 08:41:49 am »
Think this is just a very bad batch. Did 17000kms on mine at 2.3 bar. Rode all over the show and any speed, sometimes even up to 190km/h. Got cracks all over the tyres but never any problems
 

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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2014, 08:54:38 am »
I have used E07's for years on the rear... never had a problem.
If anything, they last too long... ;D not that I'm complaining.


Mark also has used these tyres extensively, and again, never had a problem... and he's usually heavy on tyres!
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2014, 09:23:38 am »
I also lost my tread along the way, luckily no cracks!
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2014, 09:27:48 am »
I'm on my 5th set of E07's. The previous 4 all got 15,000km or more.

Very happy with their all-round performance as I commute year round and do 1 or 2 weekend off-road trips each month. Have done Lesotho and recently Transkei as well.

For me the E07s is a good compromise (balance between performance/grip and km) tire.
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2014, 09:53:02 am »
I am on 12000km's on mine and feel very confident with them.. great tyre!! We ride a lot in the wet and must say they handle the wet well.Will be replacing them again with the same.
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2014, 10:11:33 am »
Hi All, thank you for allowing us to examine the tyre and report back ASAP. Replacement tyre has been dispatched and the damaged tyre will be collected for inspection. Once I know more I will let all know. I can confirm that this is a very isolated case, I called Mitas and asked if they have had any other reports of similar failures and thankfully not.

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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2014, 10:12:09 am »
also ripped some knobblies out of mine (on a previous thread). but I got my mileage out of it first so wasnt to concerned. They also refunded some which shows good backing. Will support them again.

Mine started of early with cracks, riding loaded with pillion, slowly progressed and worsened but I wasn worried to much. then on my final 300km actually to replace them I did a 200kmph stint and found some knoblies lost the day after.
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2014, 11:32:31 am »
Couple things here!

@Exsa

Was the tyre still inflated after the delamination? and if so what was its pressure?

@ some of the above posts

I find it concerning that some people jump in as judge and executioner, some even saying they will never buy them without even trying them. Others just calling them kak! this all before the importer has commented or inspected. Darren will sort this out and I think it shows in his willingness to send a new replacement before a inspection is done. This for one gives me confidence in this product. These are race pedigree tyres. Please note my above statement is not at Exsa but at those sheep in the grandstand who start baa ing at a unresolved issue without hearing both sides. Is this the dictatorship mentality we want, if so we here are doomed. I wonder how many of these people will man up and say sorry?

I have seen delamination on many brands from Heidenau's to mitchelins some on my bikes and some on others and believe me ALMOST always there is a external reason. Such as

1. under inflation
2. over inflation
3. unrecognized puncture
4. overloading
5. extended high speed with one of the above problems
6. impacts
7. manufacture fault. (if this happens its usually a batch fault)

there are a few more that dont come to mind








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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2014, 12:18:58 pm »
Mine cracked, but never got bad.  I am living with it.  What i find DISTURBING is that the new E07 looks like a freaking Heidenau with that center strip.  now I won't buy an E07 anyway.   :dousing:
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2014, 12:26:49 pm »
Mine cracked, but never got bad.  I am living with it.  What i find DISTURBING is that the new E07 looks like a freaking Heidenau with that center strip.  now I won't buy an E07 anyway.   :dousing:

Die solid strip is darem heelwat smaller as die Heidi sin, ek het een op en het nou so 3000 km gedoen en jy kom nie eers die strip agter nie, traksie is nog steeds goed en beter as die Heidi op 'n reguit lyn, die Heidi se harde compound en breŽ strip maak dat hy amper geen traksie op 'n reguit lyn het nie.
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #50 on: September 22, 2014, 12:49:24 pm »
Couple things here!

@Exsa

Was the tyre still inflated after the delamination? and if so what was its pressure?

@ some of the above posts

I find it concerning that some people jump in as judge and executioner, some even saying they will never buy them without even trying them. Others just calling them kak! this all before the importer has commented or inspected. Darren will sort this out and I think it shows in his willingness to send a new replacement before a inspection is done. This for one gives me confidence in this product. These are race pedigree tyres. Please note my above statement is not at Exsa but at those sheep in the grandstand who start baa ing at a unresolved issue without hearing both sides. Is this the dictatorship mentality we want, if so we here are doomed. I wonder how many of these people will man up and say sorry?

I have seen delamination on many brands from Heidenau's to mitchelins some on my bikes and some on others and believe me ALMOST always there is a external reason. Such as

1. under inflation
2. over inflation
3. unrecognized puncture
4. overloading
5. extended high speed with one of the above problems
6. impacts
7. manufacture fault. (if this happens its usually a batch fault)

there are a few more that dont come to mind









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Trouble is there's a LOT of Mitas running around on here so any faults/incidents will stand out like dogs balls...
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #51 on: September 22, 2014, 01:02:32 pm »
Had the same cracks on mine - still did about 9k kilos on the rear and 11k kays on the front.

Replaced them with a T63 front and E09 rear - I commute 88km a day tar and dirt.
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #52 on: September 22, 2014, 01:13:24 pm »
Three of us have just done a combined 20 000km on three E 07 rears and two E 10 fronts through Bots and Nam. One bike showed unusual wear after 4000km on the rear, cause was agreed to be the 4 Bar that he was inadvertently using after fitment.

For what it's worth I believe it to be an isolated case. Also, the yellow stripe indicates the extra layer of ply "Dakar" spec issue whilst the new standard design has the centre ridge.

« Last Edit: September 22, 2014, 01:14:48 pm by Ian in Great Brak River »
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #53 on: September 22, 2014, 06:34:24 pm »
2.3 bar is too low for on road pressure. I am not saying that this was the sole cause but please make sure you run higher pressure to limit heat build up in the tyres. Once again I van assure you that you are very safe on Mitas! 

I Agree.

I had a 130 on a 950 SE and I naaied it everywhere. I could not break it and that tire was not even designed for the 950. I always inflated to 2.8bar.

Check the date on the tire, It could be old, also any un-inflated tire at speed will put you in a coffin quick quick.
 

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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #54 on: September 22, 2014, 08:03:11 pm »
I have fitted E07 front and rear. What is the on road pressure i should run them at?
 

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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2014, 08:08:22 pm »
Jedi alway's backs up his product,

Proof!!

I mailed Jedi last night with my address and just received a call from him now
- They will collect the tyre today with a replacement
- They will provide a full report after thorough inspection

My intention with this thread was not to break down the Mitas name as I have used similar tyres previously (and over Babboon's Pass), but rather to enquire if others have encountered similar. Which was obviously a negative so far.  :thumleft:

Three of my friends have in the past years encountered delamination with Anakees and the suppliers just turned their heads. My good friend Wahl's rear caused a serious accident to him in so far that he cannot ride anymore due to a back injury because of that accident.

We must remember tyres are made by people and the substance used is a natural rubber. Many things can go wrong and I regard this one failure as a once off.

I will still ride on Mitas in future.

And lastly. Just because Jedi called me so quick means they stand by their product AND their clients

Without hi-jacking your thread, you are lucky to receive such special treatment.    :thumleft:  I am still waiting for the promised replacement for my mitas E07 that cracked severely and eventually lost a chunk on our way back from the XT bash at Koedoeskloof.  I reported the matter on the 25th of August already and still waiting.  Hope to receive it soon, I am beginning to get withdrawal symptoms from not riding the S10.  ???   
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Re: Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2014, 08:32:22 pm »
11000km on my set with average 140kph max of 160-200kph also heavy traffic daily54 to work and 54 back. Not a bad tyre

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Re: Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2014, 08:32:30 pm »
11000km on my set with average 140kph max of 160-200kph also heavy traffic daily54 to work and 54 back. Not a bad tyre

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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2014, 08:59:14 pm »
My last 5 tyres have all been Mitas and never had a second of trouble from any of them.

Currently got an E07 on the back, and the only problem I have is that it lasts too long, Had it on for over a year and the damn thing just won't wear out. Obviously I just don't ride enough.
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Re: MITAS E07 Tread failure
« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2014, 09:08:36 pm »
Jedi alway's backs up his product,

Proof!!

I mailed Jedi last night with my address and just received a call from him now
- They will collect the tyre today with a replacement
- They will provide a full report after thorough inspection

My intention with this thread was not to break down the Mitas name as I have used similar tyres previously (and over Babboon's Pass), but rather to enquire if others have encountered similar. Which was obviously a negative so far.  :thumleft:

Three of my friends have in the past years encountered delamination with Anakees and the suppliers just turned their heads. My good friend Wahl's rear caused a serious accident to him in so far that he cannot ride anymore due to a back injury because of that accident.

We must remember tyres are made by people and the substance used is a natural rubber. Many things can go wrong and I regard this one failure as a once off.

I will still ride on Mitas in future.

And lastly. Just because Jedi called me so quick means they stand by their product AND their clients

Without hi-jacking your thread, you are lucky to receive such special treatment.    :thumleft:  I am still waiting for the promised replacement for my mitas E07 that cracked severely and eventually lost a chunk on our way back from the XT bash at Koedoeskloof.  I reported the matter on the 25th of August already and still waiting.  Hope to receive it soon, I am beginning to get withdrawal symptoms from not riding the S10.  ???   
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