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Offline Bensien

Bike died on me today
« on: October 11, 2014, 05:37:55 pm »
Took the DR for a blast through the veld behind Irene this afternoon. All of a sudden it starts splattering and dies. I check fuel, spark, everything works. Push it home in my stiff new mx boots, most of it uphill. Try to start it every few minutes, but no luck. When Iím almost home, I try it again and it roars into life. Runs like clockwork from there. Now what?
Why do things that only happen to stupid people always happen to me?
 

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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2014, 05:55:12 pm »
Turned off the "Off/ Button" by mistake?
 

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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2014, 07:15:04 pm »
Sidestand switch - sommer bypass it while you at it
 

Offline Bensien

Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2014, 07:32:12 pm »
Sidestand switch - sommer bypass it while you at it

Already bypassed the side stand and clutch switches.
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2014, 07:35:02 pm »
Vuil carb.
 

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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2014, 07:39:55 pm »
 :sip: Nuwe 'n tegniek om nuwe MX boot ingeloop te kry.  :lamer:
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2014, 07:43:10 pm »
Vuil carb.


Nee man. Ek het die bike net verlede week gewas. Die carb is silwerskoon. :biggrin:
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2014, 07:46:01 pm »
Vuil carb.


Nee man. Ek het die bike net verlede week gewas. Die carb is silwerskoon. :biggrin:

 :sip: Ja nee, Benzien, daars nie hoop vir jou nie :bueller:
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2014, 08:05:26 pm »
Jokes aside, this is the bike I want to use for the big solo trip that I have been dreaming about for a long time. I need to be sure that it is bulletproof and not going to give me any surprises like it did today. Iím going to strip and clean the carb tomorrow and fit an inline fuel filter. Tonight Iím just going to rub Arnica on my ankles. They are bruised purple from pushing the bike home in those boots
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2014, 08:19:29 pm »
First thing I would suggest,,, buy more comfy boots !
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2014, 05:31:00 am »
Vuil carb.


Nee man. Ek het die bike net verlede week gewas. Die carb is silwerskoon. :biggrin:

Gee dan die bike 'n man se naam. Vrouens is rukkerig.
 

Offline Bensien

Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2014, 08:56:28 am »
I found the problem. If I allow the carb to run dry and the bike dies, it does not want to start when the fuel supply is restored.  It probably causes a vacuum lock somewhere. I switched to reserve after it died and the petrol was flowing, but by then it was too late. Must make a mental note not to let it run dry.
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2014, 06:15:47 pm »
Do you have an aftermarket tank fitted?
 

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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2014, 08:14:01 pm »
Do you have an aftermarket tank fitted?
Acerbis with taps on both sides snd rhe vacuum actuator to rhe original tap blanked off.
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2014, 08:20:09 pm »
Do you have an aftermarket tank fitted?
Acerbis with taps on both sides snd rhe vacuum actuator to rhe original tap blanked off.

I remember when I hadvmy Clark tank I had to switch over to reserve before the carb ran dry. If I was too late it was time for a few smokes and relaxing by the road. No vacuum meant that I had to wait for the thing to gravity feed the carb.
 

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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2014, 08:33:17 am »
OEM tap. Turn to PRI if you run dry. No hassles.
The Clarke takes the OEM tap (?)

Still: If you turn a manual tap to RES after running dry you should be able to start almost immediately (like after 10 seconds max.) unless something else is wrong.
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2014, 09:03:11 am »
I found the problem. If I allow the carb to run dry and the bike dies, it does not want to start when the fuel supply is restored.  It probably causes a vacuum lock somewhere. I switched to reserve after it died and the petrol was flowing, but by then it was too late. Must make a mental note not to let it run dry.

My DRZ with a Safari tank also does that if I allow it to run dry. Blowing into the breather pipe or taking the fuel cap off, and waiting 5 minutes sometimes help.
 

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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2014, 09:16:04 am »
I found the problem. If I allow the carb to run dry and the bike dies, it does not want to start when the fuel supply is restored.  It probably causes a vacuum lock somewhere. I switched to reserve after it died and the petrol was flowing, but by then it was too late. Must make a mental note not to let it run dry.

My DRZ with a Safari tank also does that if I allow it to run dry. Blowing into the breather pipe or taking the fuel cap off, and waiting 5 minutes sometimes help.

When I tested it yesterday, it took more than 15 minutes before it would start again. I could fit the original tap, but the Acerbis works best with taps on both sides. I will just have to be faster in switching to reserve in future.
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2014, 07:49:14 am »
Also have the same problem with my IMS when I run dry. Have found that removing the fuel cap and blowing into the tank while cranking the engine does the trick. The inline filter only makes it worse though. Try to get one with a L bend in the filter, as there is not a lot of space down there and you might have to loop the fuel line, which also cause airlocks.
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Re: Bike died on me today
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2014, 11:22:46 am »
I found the problem. If I allow the carb to run dry and the bike dies, it does not want to start when the fuel supply is restored.  It probably causes a vacuum lock somewhere. I switched to reserve after it died and the petrol was flowing, but by then it was too late. Must make a mental note not to let it run dry.

My DRZ with a Safari tank also does that if I allow it to run dry. Blowing into the breather pipe or taking the fuel cap off, and waiting 5 minutes sometimes help.

When I tested it yesterday, it took more than 15 minutes before it would start again. I could fit the original tap, but the Acerbis works best with taps on both sides. I will just have to be faster in switching to reserve in future.

Bensien, you still running the standard bst40 carb? If so, rotating the fuel inlet barb will help the fuel flow under gravity. I did mine with a shifter, it's screams and creaks a bit but will come around. With my aqualine safari tank, the fuel inlet barb rotated and the fuel lines run well I could always start the bike immediately after switching to reserve.

I've since swapped to a tm40 which has a swivelling inlet barb and i can do the same thing with that too, run dry swap to reserve and start. And that's with a fuel filter too.

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