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Offline Morokai

safari feul tank?!?!?
« on: October 25, 2014, 01:29:11 pm »
I've been thinking a while about the 30l safari tank upgrade.
Please all DR lovers, give me your 2cents on this thought.....any comments would be appreciated.  ???
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2014, 01:42:26 pm »
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 06:31:48 am »
Bike 30kg's heavier
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2014, 09:32:22 am »
I've posted a comparison between the various tanks available for the DR650SE. It does not contain the latest addition (25l Acerbis) but you can interpolate from the smaller Acerbis tank - the finish is as Italian shoddy and the fit too ::)

The Aqualine tank for the Suzuki DR650 and it's price IMHO is a joke. A bad one.

If you want a plastic tank and a little bit more fuel (300km+) buy Clarke.

If you want close to 400km fuel range buy IMS.

If you want 500 km fuel range get the Acerbis 25l tank.
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2014, 09:38:14 am »
I've posted a comparison between the various tanks available for the DR650SE. It does not contain the latest addition (25l Acerbis) but you can interpolate from the smaller Acerbis tank - the finish is as Italian shoddy and the fit too ::)

The Aqualine tank for the Suzuki DR650 and it's price IMHO is a joke. A bad one.

If you want a plastic tank and a little bit more fuel (300km+) buy Clarke.

If you want close to 400km fuel range buy IMS.

If you want 500 km fuel range get the Acerbis 25l tank.
Lecap maybe on the DR but I have had a couple of Acerbis tanks and have found them superior to the US makes. Acerbis seems stronger / thicker and I have never had a problem with the fitment. They are also the oem supplier for alot of dirtbike plastics.
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2014, 10:47:47 am »
Bike 30kg's heavier
Gas is heavy------pushing your bike is 3,000 times heavier  :biggrin:
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2014, 03:42:00 pm »
I need to replace my IMS tank - I'm not crazy about the Safari tank - another IMS will be ideal. where can I order a tank?
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Offline Morokai

Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2014, 04:05:55 pm »
Thanx for the current comments.

I already have a Clarke tank and the range is just not enough. Very pleased with the quality of the tank. Ill do a bit more research in the Acerbis tanks.
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2014, 06:00:44 pm »
I need to replace my IMS tank - I'm not crazy about the Safari tank - another IMS will be ideal. where can I order a tank?

http://justgastanks.com/index.php?cPath=4_72_115
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2014, 09:00:03 am »
I need to replace my IMS tank - I'm not crazy about the Safari tank - another IMS will be ideal. where can I order a tank?

http://justgastanks.com/index.php?cPath=4_72_115

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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2014, 10:57:01 am »
Sidetrack:
I sold stacks of Acerbis for XT600's. They all came with crappy finish and all needed mods to the bikes to fit (indicators).
The 20l Acerbis for the DR650SE is exaxctly the same.
Acerbis fuel taps only get beaten in flimsiness by the ones that come with IMS tanks.
Filler caps are a joke too. Both the standard ones as well as the lockable ones.

Muz Baghira 660 came with Acerbis tank. Unbeaten shoddiness. Do they know how to clean mould flash ???

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As for all aftermarket tanks usually best to order from overseas. No one can keep a whole range of tanks in all colours and sizes on the shelf to maybe sell one every month.
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2014, 03:17:53 pm »
I need to replace my IMS tank - I'm not crazy about the Safari tank - another IMS will be ideal. where can I order a tank?
Safari tanks are very expensive ! I would also order from justgastanks - don't know what will happen at SAPO when it gets here though ?
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2014, 08:40:03 pm »
I have been waiting since end July for my 6,6gal (26,4litre) Acerbis tank. The tracking shows that it hasn't even cleared custom. I need it by 12 December. Thank you SAPO. ???
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2014, 08:19:22 am »
The situation at SAPO Gauteng hub is pathetic: A speed mail parcel posted mid September got stuck her for a day, at the Cape Mail hub for a day and then in Gauteng for the next two months, arrived last week ::)

I would wait for the end of the strike before ordering anything. Well you can order now but you will most likely not get your stuff before the end of the strike ::)
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Re: safari feul tank?!?!?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2014, 01:35:05 pm »
I've used the Safari Tank for years and its a quality bit of kit, although granted it is expensive.  Probably 70 or 80% of DR650's in Aus have the safari tank fitted - everyone who uses the DR for adv riding at home uses it as its the only tank which gives enough range for heading out into the sticks in Aus.  Its marketed as 30l but its more like 32 from new, and it will swell as it ages.  Our 2 now fit about 35-36l in them.  Reserve is about 4l or so, although it seems to vary from tank to tank for some reason, I think it has to do with how they swell.

Pro's:

 - Its big, its the only real option when going remote.

 - The tanks are very strong - ours have been dropped numerous times and are fine.  Of all my mates at home, I've never heard of one of these things being punctured or split.

 - The tank gives a bit of wind protection for the legs.

Con's:

 - When about 2/3's full the fuel does slosh around in technical terrain, but you get used to it.  If you grip the tank with your knees it negates it and its fine.  (For the record, petrol has a density of around 0.75 to 0.8 depending on quality so 30l is about 23-24kgs, not 30).

 - The petcocks aren't great.  I've had friends who have some weeps when turning to reserve, although it seals again when its turned.  I pretty sure Acerbis use the same brand (OMG - the brand, not the the acronym) petcocks.

 - I've read of people have trouble fitting these but I never had any trouble with my two - straight bolt up.  A good trick is to drill a hole in the tongue which locates the seat.  This allows you to lever the tank with a screwdriver and get the two bolts to line up easier.

 - With the standard BST40 carb, you have to rotate the fuel inlet barb to empty the tank.  The standard barb points upwards and the resulting loop in the fuel line means the line ends up higher than the petcock and you won't be able to empty the tank fully.  Best thing to do is to remove the carb, then carefully rotate the barb with a shifter.  Be careful though, people have twisted the barb when doing this.  Mine were fine - i did it carefully and made sure it was twisting at the inlet and rotated the barb, not twisting the barb itself.  A better solution is to replace the BST40 with a TM40 pumper which has a rotating inlet barb which solves this issue!

 - when full, the extra weight loads up the front of the bike.  Some HD fork springs are really needed. Depending on rider weight and the way you like to ride, somewhere between 0.47 and 0.55 is about right. 


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